6'6" Fitted to +1.5" and 1° Flat (?!)

[mdl]

My brother's been playing with used stock clubs forever and looks like he's playing with children's clubs.  So he's used to hunching over like crazy and swinging super flat. He finally went to get fit and got the specs in the title for an all Callaway rogue bag. I know different swings and all, but I'm 6'3" and got fit to between +1 and +1.5" (went with 1.5") and 2° upright. I can't help but feel he'd do better with clubs at least a bit upright and unlearning the child's clubs hunch swing. Am I crazy?

[Vinsk]

35 minutes ago, mdl said:

My brother's been playing with used stock clubs forever and looks like he's playing with children's clubs.  So he's used to hunching over like crazy and swinging super flat. He finally went to get fit and got the specs in the title for an all Callaway rogue bag. I know different swings and all, but I'm 6'3" and got fit to between +1 and +1.5" (went with 1.5") and 2° upright. I can't help but feel he'd do better with clubs at least a bit upright and unlearning the child's clubs hunch swing. Am I crazy?

Fitting is a strange bird. I’m 6’3 And was fitted to Ping i200 +1/4 and flat .75. 

[billchao]

There's no industry standard for lie angle. Most manufacturers have different lie angles in different sets.

[Missouri Swede]

2 hours ago, Vinsk said:

Fitting is a strange bird. I’m 6’3 And was fitted to Ping i200 +1/4 and flat .75. 

I’m 6’2 1/2”. I just got fitted for Ping G400 irons . Fitted for standard length and lie. Fitter even looked at next shorter (1/2 or 1/4? I didn’t ask). 

Thought I’d need longer. So yeah, depends.

[colin007]

6'4" here. I'm +.75 and 2 up.

I think it's got something to do with arm length as well. Do the sharpie test and see what that indicates.

[Golfingdad]

4 hours ago, Vinsk said:

Fitting is a strange bird. I’m 6’3 And was fitted to Ping i200 +1/4 and flat .75. 

Agree with this.  It’s strange.

My clubs fitted for me (6-3) in 2012 are a couple degrees upright and an inch or two long.

I got to go through a Callaway fitting a couple of years later .... and they told me I was standard lie and length, so ... who knows??

[Vinsk]

57 minutes ago, Golfingdad said:

Agree with this.  It’s strange.

My clubs fitted for me (6-3) in 2012 are a couple degrees upright and an inch or two long.

I got to go through a Callaway fitting a couple of years later .... and they told me I was standard lie and length, so ... who knows??

I can understand getting varying results among different clubs since there can be differences in what’s ‘standard’ across different makes. But I believe (pure speculation) that if I went for fittings for the exact same club make/series from 5 different places I’d get varying results. This is what makes me question this whole fitting process for those of us who aren’t pros or scratch.

[mdl]

45 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

I can understand getting varying results among different clubs since there can be differences in what’s ‘standard’ across different makes. But I believe (pure speculation) that if I went for fittings for the exact same club make/series from 5 different places I’d get varying results. This is what makes me question this whole fitting process for those of us who aren’t pros or scratch.

Right? What's the inter rater reliability here...

[1badbadger]

12 hours ago, Vinsk said:

I can understand getting varying results among different clubs since there can be differences in what’s ‘standard’ across different makes. But I believe (pure speculation) that if I went for fittings for the exact same club make/series from 5 different places I’d get varying results. This is what makes me question this whole fitting process for those of us who aren’t pros or scratch.

It wouldn't surprise me if you went to 5 different fitters and got 5 different results.  Club fitting isn't an exact science...it's part science and part art.  The reason is because there are so many variables.  This is where an experienced fitter can help.  Just because a player is tall doesn't mean his lie angle should be upright.  It just depends on how much of a toe-down affect he creates and his position at impact.

[Valleygolfer]

16 hours ago, Vinsk said:

I can understand getting varying results among different clubs since there can be differences in what’s ‘standard’ across different makes. But I believe (pure speculation) that if I went for fittings for the exact same club make/series from 5 different places I’d get varying results. This is what makes me question this whole fitting process for those of us who aren’t pros or scratch.

I would agree here as well. I pretty much fit myself with feel and a lie board. It makes sense if you are above average height, you should have longer clubs. I also agree with @mdl that ideally he should get away from hunchy posture. Maybe you should get a second opinion. 

[1badbadger]

One important thing to remember in a situation like this guys, and someone who is more of an expert on the swing than I am like @iacas can chime in as well...when a person who is 6'6" (for example) and has been playing with stock clubs for an extended period of time, they develop certain compensations in their address position and swing to make the clubs work.  The OP mentioned his brother has to hunch over quite a bit and has a flat swing in order to make contact.

When a player is then properly fit for new clubs, it's not uncommon (mainly at first) to continue to set-up to the ball hunched over and swing flat, or whatever other compensations they developed.  This can cause some shockingly bad shots initially, which makes people question if the new specs are correct.  With the help of an instructor, or sometimes a player's own natural athletic ability, they will learn to address the ball in a more upright athletic stance and not have to swing so flat.  Clubs that are 1.5" longer and a little flatter is a big change, and people sometimes assume they will hit them great right away, but this sometimes doesn't happen.