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26 minutes ago, Carl3 said:

I am wondering how a screw adds weight to a solid, metallic head. If anything there would be slightly less material as the threads are not a perfect fit and the head of the screw has material removed to allow the screw driver to mate up. Perhaps the screw head is much more dense than the head material? Find that hard to believe. 

Maybe the screw is a style thing like fins on an old Cadillac.

The i500s were hollow inside, so the screw is there to offset weight from the hosel.  The screw is just another piece to help with fitting and feel.

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What sucks too Vinsk, is I want to hit them outside this spring when our April demo day comes up and I can hit it off of grass but the range balls are rocks.  I wanted to see if the i500 sounded or felt better outside off of grass.

Again, me... trying /wanting them to work.

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1 hour ago, phillyk said:

The i500s were hollow inside, so the screw is there to offset weight from the hosel.  The screw is just another piece to help with fitting and feel.

Weight on the toe can also help with toe misses and move the sweetspot towards the middle from the heel. Depends on the design and we don't know much about the club - looks very demanding - definitely not for me.

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1 hour ago, phillyk said:

The i500s were hollow inside, so the screw is there to offset weight from the hosel. 

I was referring to the Blueprint irons. Someone said they were not hollow and someone else thought the screw was to add weight. Did not seem to add up.

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30 minutes ago, Carl3 said:

I was referring to the Blueprint irons. Someone said they were not hollow and someone else thought the screw was to add weight. Did not seem to add up.

True that doesn't add up.  I'm going to go with them being hollow because of the screw being there.

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You guys ever hear of " Google":-D ?!!

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favicon-76.png Ping Blueprint Forged irons don't feature hollow construction

A recent trip to Ping Golf's Phoenix, Arizona-based headquarters revealed an interesting nugget about the company's Blueprint Forged prototype blade. What it revealed was that it did not...
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Ping’s new Blueprint Forged prototype irons have made waves in the golf equipment world for their sleek designs with compact profiles, thin toplines and thin soles. Also, it doesn’t hurt that...

 

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1 hour ago, Typhoon92 said:

You guys ever hear of " Google":-D ?!!

Did iacas give you that avatar or is that your senior portrait from HS? You look clean cut in your member swing video. Nice swing!

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7 hours ago, colin007 said:

The screw is made from either heavier or lighter metal than the rest of the head

Guys, the answer is right there.

If you have a head made of aluminum, and you put a tungsten screw in the toe… the CG moves toward the toe and the head gets heavier as well.

Density of all metals is not the same.

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@iacas mentioned it, but tungsten is a common metal used in making irons and it's more dense than stainless steel. Many manufacturers use tungsten in specific places for the purpose of manipulating CoG.

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16 hours ago, billchao said:

@iacas mentioned it, but tungsten is a common metal used in making irons and it's more dense than stainless steel. Many manufacturers use tungsten in specific places for the purpose of manipulating CoG.

 

17 hours ago, iacas said:

If you have a head made of aluminum, and you put a tungsten screw in the toe… the CG moves toward the toe and the head gets heavier as well.

Density of all metals is not the same.

I get it, I have a mech engineering degree. I think my Ping E1's have tungsten in the toe of the aluminum shaft. If you look real close you can barely see its outline. Not sure why they did not just go that route as the screw is just confusing people. Maybe it is a fashion trend?

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12 minutes ago, Carl3 said:

Not sure why they did not just go that route as the screw is just confusing people.

Because with a screw they can adjust the swing weight and the position of the CG. Lots of PING clubs have weight adjustments like this. The iBlades have a weight in the back cavity.

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10 hours ago, Carl3 said:

 

I get it, I have a mech engineering degree. I think my Ping E1's have tungsten in the toe of the aluminum shaft. If you look real close you can barely see its outline. Not sure why they did not just go that route as the screw is just confusing people. Maybe it is a fashion trend?

Sometimes on woods you’ll see a weight screw that isn’t meant to be user-adjustable that they use to tune the headweight based on the as-built weight of the club. TaylorMade in particular does that a lot. 

Could be the same idea here. (Probably not, if I had to guess. But maybe.)

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25 minutes ago, Dry Tortuga said:

Any information on when these will be released to the public (if at all)?

I assume they will mention something at the PGA Show later this month.  The iBlade came out in August, so maybe the Blueprint will follow suit?

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6554b6be8c0d829a8bf63ae0c82cf121_link.pn Ping Blueprint irons may get attention for being forged, but there's more to their story - Golf Digest

Ping Blueprint irons feature compact shape, narrow sole, less offset all in line with tour player preferences

 

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Fully forged, 8620 carbon steel, tour-inspired design for highly skilled players who put a premium on workability and trajectory control.

Dang those irons look good!

Too bad they have a suggested retail price of $230 per club!

 

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18 hours ago, ncates00 said:

How are these different from the i500's?

Blueprint: 1-piece forging blade iron

i500: hollow bodied iron with face welded to chassis, much stronger lofts

Completely different animals.

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Oh yeah, i500...nice concept but I never hear anything good.  I hit them outside, don't see any benefit.  Prefer the i210.   

Now the Blueprint irons...hmmmm....look nice but the Ping rep told be a few months they are very tough to hit.  And expensive.  I have a demo day coming up in June so I'll probably hit this all day.

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