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What Separates the Average Player to a Great Player?

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4 minutes ago, billchao said:

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1 hour ago, Cantankerish said:

My thoughts are that you will benefit from this forum quite a bit more if you refrain from declarative statements for awhile. 

Well it was a question. Just no question mark. 🙂

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26 minutes ago, billchao said:

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I saw something about a comma at school the other day...  The comma makes a difference!

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Well it was a question. Just no question mark. 🙂

Good thing I was talking about the other sentence.

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Ball striking.   The greatest players can take a full swing and consistently have:

1.  Swing bottom 4 to 6 inches in front of ball

2.  A little bit of unreleased lag at impact (still an angle between the lead arm and shaft)  

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18 hours ago, Keep It Simple said:

Ball striking.   The greatest players can take a full swing and consistently have:

1.  Swing bottom 4 to 6 inches in front of ball

2.  A little bit of unreleased lag at impact (still an angle between the lead arm and shaft)  

Eh, a shaft pointing straight up to the left shoulder is fine. It's "inline impact." You don't need to still have a little lag.

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On 12/30/2019 at 1:45 PM, golflover123 said:

what separate the average player to a great player is it short game knowing the course your playing  the mental side. 

what are you thoughts 

None of the above - but of course they're important.  

Bottom line is that it's ball striking. You can do it or you can't. And you'll know very early in your golfing life what your potential is. A person who likes golf can't "learn" how to become a great player just because that's what they'd like. 

Go and watch a REALLY good player. After seeing them hit 3 full shots you'll know if you might be able to emulate them. in 99% of cases you won't.

Here's Marc Leishman's scoring in club competition over the last couple of years. For those of you who don't play stableford, 36 points is essentially playing to your daily handicap.

So....40 points off +7 is the equivalent of 11 under par.

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22 hours ago, Cantankerish said:

Good thing I was talking about the other sentence.

What other sentence? I read everything in the OP as a question.

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1 hour ago, billchao said:

What other sentence? I read everything in the OP as a question.

Yeah. Question marks added:

On 12/29/2019 at 9:45 PM, golflover123 said:

what separate the average player to a great player? is it short game? knowing the course your playing?  the mental side?

what are you thoughts?

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On 1/1/2020 at 6:26 PM, iacas said:

Yeah. Question marks added:

Ah. I see what you mean.  It reads differently for me with question marks.

Punctuation.  It exists for a reason.

 

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On 12/31/2019 at 4:42 AM, DaveP043 said:

In my opinion, "great" players are better than average players in every facet of the game.  Yes, they're better with their short game, with their putting, with their driving, and with their iron play.  Everything.  The biggest separation is with full swing stuff, with smaller differences in short game and putting.  Even I can be close to a "great" player in decision-making, but without the ballstriking skill, there's still a huge gulf.

i would agree on that they all have to play well together short game mid irons driver 

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On 12/29/2019 at 9:45 PM, golflover123 said:

what separate the average player to a great player is it short game knowing the course your playing  the mental side. 

what are you thoughts 

This is what separates the average player from the great player:

Their scores.


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Better course management and better "big" misses on every aspect of the game.
 
The long game separates them more than the short game do.

When I used to track my stroke gained stats and was a +1 handicap i was a decent long game player, above average around the green but bad at putting. Despite that I used to lost 3 strokes of the tee, 2 with irons, 0 with short game and 2 with putting. 
Long game -5 / Short game -2.  Their long game was in another world for me.

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