LIV Golf Now Closed?

[Vinsk]

14 minutes ago, 70sSanO said:

While it was the Champions Tour, this is probably more typical of the interest in "non-major" golf.  Neither LIV nor the PGA can change it.  A 20 year old Tiger could/did, but there are no names big enough anymore.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/justin-thomas-tiger-woods-phone-call-fred-couples

John

 I don’t think there’s ever been  an expectation to be as popular as the NFL.

[iacas]

Hank Haney, man, seriously. Just shut up.

Hank Haney sues the PGA Tour, says it carried "vendetta" against him for tell-all Tiger Woods book | Golf News and Tour Information | Golf Digest

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Golf instructor Hank Haney has filed a lawsuit against the PGA Tour, alleging the tour has harbored a "vendetta" against him.

Like, we get it. You hate the PGA Tour. But stop proving that you're the idiot so many know you to be.

[chspeed]

52 minutes ago, iacas said:

Hank Haney, man, seriously. Just shut up.

Hank Haney sues the PGA Tour, says it carried "vendetta" against him for tell-all Tiger Woods book | Golf News and Tour Information | Golf Digest

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Golf instructor Hank Haney has filed a lawsuit against the PGA Tour, alleging the tour has harbored a "vendetta" against him.

Like, we get it. You hate the PGA Tour. But stop proving that you're the idiot so many know you to be.

I think that's from 2019. Was just looking for cheap publicity is my guess.

[iacas]

1 minute ago, chspeed said:

I think that's from 2019. Was just looking for cheap publicity is my guess.

Yes, it was. The date is on the article.

It speaks to why Haney might be such a LIV Fool.

[dennyjones]

Posted today at mirro.co.uk

"Yeah, it was a good match," Smith said. "I think Phil maybe had some gamesmanship in there a little bit. He seemed to take forever today. I think we were three or four holes behind, so that was a bit painful. But other than that, it was good."

[Bucki1968]

I was playing golf this past Sunday morning with some guys, and we had a couple after the round and were watching the DP tour on golf channel and pre-game NFL stuff.  Not one mention of LIV golf finals. One guy at a table near us mentioned the playoffs but obviously there was no way to watch it on the televisions in the grill. I'm not sure many golf fans really give a shit about LIV golf anymore (as seen by the viewer numbers). I know I don't. I did watch a little on Saturday and kinda liked the team format, but it wouldn't cause me to plan a day around it.

[iacas]

[GolfLug]

Buh baa Sharkie... Back to preening in front of the mirror.

[Darkfrog]

I have heard the rumors about Greg getting fired on golf podcasts for awhile now. I've also heard the podcasters theorize that if Greg gets fired, he will claim that it was all part of the plan from the beginning to bring him in as a disruptor, and then switch to a more of a conciliator front man.

I wonder if LIV had a competent CEO at the get go, how differently things would have gone.

Edited November 11, 2022 by Darkfrog

[GolfLug]

I am curious if Mark King or whoever has an actual high priced death wish. Not that Norman would be jumping for joy but who would want to touch this? 

[iacas]

8 minutes ago, GolfLug said:

I am curious if Mark King or whoever has an actual high priced death wish. Not that Norman would be jumping for joy but who would want to touch this? 

$ guarantees there are a lot of people who would touch this.

[GolfLug]

2 hours ago, iacas said:

$ guarantees there are a lot of people who would touch this.

I get it but the list has gotta to be really small on MBS' desk.

Norman hasn't set a high bar but that has to change. At the end of the day they have an ill-conceived lusterless product that is not selling. The separation they bet on (team golf/54 holes/no cuts) is the very thing that is blowing up in their face one event at a time. A CEO worth their salt would know they would be behind the 8-ball on day one.  A 10-page plan is not going to save this. A singular masterful idea maybe, if one exist, that is.   

I read an article where the writer said something to the effect of; there is only so long MBS would be taken for a fool by the Pat Perezes of the world. I agree. 

I would venture to guess that to MBS the whole golf-can-make-us-look-good is merely a Sunday afternoon whim some clever peon built up on. It wont be long before they realize their best bet to any relevance on this planet is to go back to pinching oil supplies.

Golf is hard. Like.. really hard. 😁   

Edited November 11, 2022 by GolfLug

[boogielicious]

13 hours ago, GolfLug said:

A CEO worth their salt

Here lies the real guess. Many “CEOs” run their companies into the ground then leave and do it again somewhere else. I’m hoping this guy does this with LIV and takes LIV where your Taco Bell tacos go the next morning.

[GolfLug]

1 hour ago, boogielicious said:

Here lies the real guess. Many “CEOs” run their companies into the ground then leave and do it again somewhere else.

QFT. 

1 hour ago, boogielicious said:

I’m hoping this guy does this with LIV and takes LIV where your Taco Bell tacos go the next morning.

Lol. Seems like it is eventually headed that way. Even if we put aside the conflict altogether, the product is shit on its own independent merit. It might not be a climactic ending but more a slow death plagued by disinterest and eventual irrelevance. 

Glad it won't hurt my feelings.

[iacas]

Ha, I finally read the New Yorker article (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/10/24/will-the-saudis-and-donald-trump-save-golf-or-wreck-it) and at the bottom, this:

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Published in the print edition of the October 24, 2022, issue, with the headline “Sand Trap.”

😉

[Aguirre]

Has anyone heard anything online about what Pat Perez was talking about with Phil Mickelson "unforgivable" actions? I mean, I've never heard anything. Was this is an affair or something?

[iacas]

9 hours ago, Aguirre said:

Has anyone heard anything online about what Pat Perez was talking about with Phil Mickelson "unforgivable" actions? I mean, I've never heard anything. Was this is an affair or something?

The golf world is surprisingly scant on details here. It seems to be either a flirtation or a full out affair or at least single occurrence, or something in between…?

Whatever. I don't really care too much about their off-the-course stuff or the stuff that doesn't affect the golf. Couldn't happen to a pair of nicer dudes, though. 😛

[Aguirre]

9 hours ago, iacas said:

The golf world is surprisingly scant on details here. It seems to be either a flirtation or a full out affair or at least single occurrence, or something in between…?

Whatever. I don't really care too much about their off-the-course stuff or the stuff that doesn't affect the golf. Couldn't happen to a pair of nicer dudes, though. 😛

I agree, I'm not one for the gossip. But Perez just floats that out there and of course everyone is going to be curious. Like there isn't much I consider "unforgiveable" in my life. Maybe Phil ate three of his children.