LIV Golf Now Closed?

[iacas]

7 hours ago, snapfade said:

There are other issues sure, but I am of the opinion that LIV's shorter tournaments don't carry the same weight as a 72 hole tournament. For me, it starts there. But I'm not Peter Dawson.

It doesn't really matter what your opinion is, though:

• No 72-hole events.
• No cuts.
• Small fields below the minimum average field size.
• No real relegation/promotion.

They need to have those things for a year before you can be considered for points, and they haven't done any of them.

[snapfade]

2 hours ago, iacas said:

It doesn't really matter what your opinion is, though:

• No 72-hole events.
• No cuts.
• Small fields below the minimum average field size.
• No real relegation/promotion.

They need to have those things for a year before you can be considered for points, and they haven't done any of them.

How's that different than what I said exactly?  For me it starts at the 72 vs 54 holes. Of course the other bullet points are valid as Dawson said. LIV didn't stand a chance winning the battle so Norman gave up, he can go start is on WGR for all I care. We will see how all of this pans out when Rory jumps ship. It's coming. 

[iacas]

41 minutes ago, snapfade said:

How's that different than what I said exactly?

Dude.

41 minutes ago, snapfade said:

We will see how all of this pans out when Rory jumps ship. It's coming. 

[pganapathy]

16 hours ago, iacas said:

15 hours ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Because the reverse is also true. If you walk slow as a snail you can get out of position even if your pre-shot routine is only a couple seconds long. I see this from time to time in the tournaments and leagues I play in more so than in the pros. 

 

16 hours ago, iacas said:

What if you walk really quickly? Walk fast enough and you can take several minutes a shot and not get out of position.

I suppose both these are possibilities but in my view, the biggest contributor to slow play tends to be people taking forever over the ball.  Of course, this is just an average so all scenarios are possible.  So I understand why the rules officials have decided that the easiest way to police slow play is to address the one time limit which can be easily quantified and measured.  Walking fast or slow can be determined by many factors.  A level course is quicker to walk than a mountain course which is either uphill or downhill pretty much all the time.  Also, if you are pulling or carrying your own bag as opposed to using a caddie times can vary.  Then the type of terrain, distance between tee box and green and weather can all affect your walking speed.

[snapfade]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

Dude.

Who knows what the future will hold? Didn't think Rahm would jump ship. I think if he doesn't get a Major this year then I will lean more towards it becoming a reality, nothing would surprise me at this point in the game. Insert any name and I wouldn't be surprised. Money has a lot of power. Can't buy OWGR points though. LOL 

[iacas]

9 minutes ago, pganapathy said:

So I understand why the rules officials have decided that the easiest way to police slow play is to address the one time limit which can be easily quantified and measured.

I haven’t said anything differently. My main point has been that you have to be out of position first.

I do disagree that the main cause is the time someone takes over the ball.

[phan52]

Rahm:

“I’m hoping that in the near future I can be back playing some of those events. I would certainly love to go back and play some of them. If there’s ever a way back and a way where we can play, even if it’s as an invite, I will take it. There’s certain events that are special to me that I would still love to support. For everybody who said this would be easy, some things have been, but not being able to defend some titles that mean a lot to me hasn't. I love Palm Springs. I've been able to win twice there. Riviera is about as charismatic of a golf course as we have. Not being there was difficult.

I still watch golf because I love watching it, but it's hard. It was hard not to be at the Phoenix Open at the end of February, and it was hard not to be at Hawaii."

It appears that there is some regret there. And also, an appeal to have his cake and eat it too. He is the one guy I miss but, too bad Jon.

[elementz]

20 hours ago, phan52 said:

Rahm:

“I’m hoping that in the near future I can be back playing some of those events. I would certainly love to go back and play some of them. If there’s ever a way back and a way where we can play, even if it’s as an invite, I will take it. There’s certain events that are special to me that I would still love to support. For everybody who said this would be easy, some things have been, but not being able to defend some titles that mean a lot to me hasn't. I love Palm Springs. I've been able to win twice there. Riviera is about as charismatic of a golf course as we have. Not being there was difficult.

I still watch golf because I love watching it, but it's hard. It was hard not to be at the Phoenix Open at the end of February, and it was hard not to be at Hawaii."

It appears that there is some regret there. And also, an appeal to have his cake and eat it too. He is the one guy I miss but, too bad Jon.

I am confident that it will happen eventually that a path opening for LIV players to play in PGAT events.   Same goes for the Ryder Cup.

[snapfade]

Maybe a solution is to let them play on sponsor exemptions. If the major sponsor of an event wants whoever, then they could say to the PGAT, "We will pull our sponsorship if we cant invite whoever we want." For now that's the only way I see them playing on the PGAT. Who knows what the future holds with all of this mess? They chose to go to LIV, now they have to live with the decision. End of story...for now.

[iacas]

On 3/21/2024 at 1:12 PM, phan52 said:

Rahm:

“I’m hoping that in the near future I can be back playing some of those events. I would certainly love to go back and play some of them. If there’s ever a way back and a way where we can play, even if it’s as an invite, I will take it. There’s certain events that are special to me that I would still love to support. For everybody who said this would be easy, some things have been, but not being able to defend some titles that mean a lot to me hasn't. I love Palm Springs. I've been able to win twice there. Riviera is about as charismatic of a golf course as we have. Not being there was difficult.

I still watch golf because I love watching it, but it's hard. It was hard not to be at the Phoenix Open at the end of February, and it was hard not to be at Hawaii."

It appears that there is some regret there. And also, an appeal to have his cake and eat it too. He is the one guy I miss but, too bad Jon.

[saevel25]

Famous study, now 14 years old, comparing amount someone makes and happiness. It's a pretty low number, something like $75K (2010) was the start of the plateau. Adjust for inflation, that is now $106K-ish. 

Money = Ease of Mind

Happiness = Self-worth, values, goals, family, friends, etc. A lot of stuff money can't buy. 

 

[StuM]

6 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

Famous study, now 14 years old, comparing amount someone makes and happiness. It's a pretty low number, something like $75K (2010) was the start of the plateau. Adjust for inflation, that is now $106K-ish. 

Money = Ease of Mind

Happiness = Self-worth, values, goals, family, friends, etc. A lot of stuff money can't buy. 

 

Not to disagree, but just think of all the golf trips tonight's Mega Millions winner could do.  That's gotta move the needle on happiness at least a little.

[saevel25]

1 minute ago, StuM said:

Not to disagree, but just think of all the golf trips tonight's Mega Millions winner could do.  That's gotta move the needle on happiness at least a little.

I get that, too much of something will lead to getting bored of it. 

There is a reason why I don't go to this steak place every week and keep it to like 3-4x a year. 😉. I like the anticipation and the, "Yea, that is how I remember it" 😛 

[snapfade]

LIV Miami Update.

Pro's

Free admission. Free parking/ shuttle. Heckling Patrick Reed. Watching DeChambeau hit driver.

Con's

It felt like a bbq at a city park on Memorial Day weekend. Music and people doing their thing, and oh yeah there some guys playing golf. Cant escape the club music. Not seeing Paulina Gretzky.

AK looked like some guy hanging out at the gas station in Hialeah. There was a good crowd but just the vibe of the place was not anything special. 

 

[boogielicious]

Even the LIV player’s Moms don’t watch LIV.

[phan52]

I wonder if the slowdown at the Valero due to Spieth’s nonsense on 18 got some people to switch over? There was about 15 minutes there where there was no golf. 

[4zim]

15 minutes ago, snapfade said:

LIV Miami Update.

Pro's

Free admission. Free parking/ shuttle. Heckling Patrick Reed. Watching DeChambeau hit driver.

Con's

It felt like a bbq at a city park on Memorial Day weekend. Music and people doing their thing, and oh yeah there some guys playing golf. Cant escape the club music. Not seeing Paulina Gretzky.

AK looked like some guy hanging out at the gas station in Hialeah. There was a good crowd but just the vibe of the place was not anything special. 

 

I would attend for free. I tried to go the event in Mayakoba a couple years ago but couldn’t get a free ticket. The logistics of getting there then made it not worth it. 

[iacas]

I turned it on flipping through channels trying to find the PGA Tour event for background noise, saw what Sergio was wearing, saw Rahm in 8th missing a 15-footer, and then saw a Uihlein chip-in or something perhaps, and… it was just really gaudy. The leaderboard, the outfits… everything.