2023 TST Outing (OH/PA/MI/NY/WV) - Join Us May 20 @ Little Mountain!

[ChetlovesMer]

Do I have to email in my index. Or will this suffice? 

[iacas]

16 minutes ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Do I have to email in my index. Or will this suffice? 

That's fine. We didn't need a picture, though. Just telling us the number is good.

Still not decided on the game.

[saevel25]

16 hours ago, StuM said:

We are going rain or shine and current forecast is a high of 74 with 46% chance of rain, which means 54% chance of no rain.  But that is a few days away so we will see.

Looks like the way to early forecast has the rain showing up before 11am on Saturday. 

Still, bring the umbrella and rain gear for good luck. 

[dennyjones]

@StuM said controlling the rain was Erik's job.  😏😜

[boogielicious]

If we all bring rain gear and umbrellas it won’t rain!

[StuM]

14 hours ago, iacas said:

If you don't send a handicap index, you'll be given the lowest we have (probably mine). So if you're a 10.1 that wants to play to a +1.5 or something… don't send in your index!

I know Erick say to submit your HCP by Friday but if possible please message me today or tomorrow morning so I can relax with a beer on Friday.  I've just messaged those I am missing so you can just reply to my message.

[BradSomrak]

Sorry, all, but I am not going to be able to make it. Little league playoffs start this Saturday for Pittsburgh. 

I hope you all hit it straight(ish). 
 

Brad. 

[StuM]

As a "Game", I pulled this idea from last year's thread for Reserve Run.  What do you all think of a "Quota Game"?  It is not "Team" so works with any number of players and is handicapped so we all have a chance.  

I've never done this but it sounds doable.  I am open to other ideas.

Here's How to Play a Quota Golf Tournament

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Learn how to play a quota golf tournament, including the points awarded and how to determine the winner.

 

 

[StuM]

I just get a message that @BradSomrakcan't make it on Saturday.  That puts us at 20.  That may open up other games.  

Attn ALL.  We really need to know if you are attending.  Below is the current list.  If you cannot make it, PLEASE respond ASAP (no need to respond if you will be there).  I really hope this is our final change.

1. @StuM
2. @ChetlovesMer
3. @dennyjones
4. @boogielicious
5. @bkuehn1952
6. @Divot Master
7. @rwolfe
8. @Old1964
9. @vasaribm
10. @iacas
11. @billchao
12. @saevel25
13. @David L Yskes
14. @Jeremie Boop
15. @GolfLug
16. @DrizZzY
17. @jtroutman
18. @Greenshirt100
19. @brockman21
20. @Dwalk2088

[iacas]

1 hour ago, BradSomrak said:

Sorry, all, but I am not going to be able to make it. Little league playoffs start this Saturday for Pittsburgh. 

I hope you all hit it straight(ish). 

😛

I’ll re-do everything again tonight.

[iacas]

New groups again…

• 1:00 (White) - @StuM @dennyjones @Divot Master @Old1964
• 1:10 (White) - @rwolfe @boogielicious @bkuehn1952 @ChetlovesMer
• 1:20 (Blue) - @vasaribm @billchao @Jeremie Boop @David L Yskes
• 1:30 (Blue) - @brockman21 @Greenshirt100 @jtroutman @Dwalk2088
• 1:40 (Blue) - @iacas @GolfLug @saevel25 @DrizZzY

I'll create the game soon. It may be a two-person game.

[iacas]

Okay, here's what I've come up with. We're going to do the following:

• $5 net skins per person
• $5 gross skins per person
• $10 per person for the team game.

The team game is a two-person game. I'll assign teams, but you're welcome to change them up in your groups so long as you tell @StuM by Friday night (and post in this topic!!).

My really tentative teams…

• 1:00 (White) - @StuM & @dennyjones, @Divot Master & @Old1964
• 1:10 (White) - @rwolfe & @boogielicious, @bkuehn1952 & @ChetlovesMer
• 1:20 (Blue) - @vasaribm & @billchao, @Jeremie Boop & @David L Yskes
• 1:30 (Blue) - @Greenshirt100 & @jtroutman, @brockman21 & @Dwalk2088
• 1:40 (Blue) - @GolfLug & @DrizZzY, @iacas & @saevel25

The course has five par threes and three par fives (13 and 18 play as par fours for men). It's par 35-35. So the team scores (all net) will be:

• Scores of both players count on all par threes (5 = 10 scores, par 30).
• Scores of only one player counts on all par fives (3 = 3 scores, par 15).
• That leaves 10 par fours, and you must take 12 scores, with at least four from each player (par 48).

Even net will thus be 30 + 15 + 48 = 93.

All net at 70% course handicaps, and you can decide which 12 scores you're taking on the par fours at the end of the round. You don't have to decide right upon the completion of each hole. This is lower than usual, but… you only need to count nine scores: five par threes and four par fours. (Your teammate would have to count 5 + 8 + 3, though.)

Any questions? Please, double-check my math. The link above is a link to the scorecard, too. So check that, please.

Any thoughts? I'm not going to insist on this, but I thought it'd be interesting.

Payouts for the team game will be ($20 per team, 10 teams = $200):

• First Place: $80
• Second Place: $50
• Third Place: $40
• Fourth Place: $20
• Fifth Place: $10

[GolfLug]

Seems like a fairly good game to me. I guess the par 3s will separate the men from the boys..heh heh.

[ChetlovesMer]

10 hours ago, iacas said:

Okay, here's what I've come up with. We're going to do the following:

• $5 net skins per person
• $5 gross skins per person
• $10 per person for the team game.

The team game is a two-person game. I'll assign teams, but you're welcome to change them up in your groups so long as you tell @StuM by Friday night (and post in this topic!!).

My really tentative teams…

• 1:00 (White) - @StuM & @dennyjones, @Divot Master & @Old1964
• 1:10 (White) - @rwolfe & @boogielicious, @bkuehn1952 & @ChetlovesMer
• 1:20 (Blue) - @vasaribm & @billchao, @Jeremie Boop & @David L Yskes
• 1:30 (Blue) - @Greenshirt100 & @jtroutman, @brockman21 & @Dwalk2088
• 1:40 (Blue) - @GolfLug & @DrizZzY, @iacas & @saevel25

The course has five par threes and three par fives (13 and 18 play as par fours for men). It's par 35-35. So the team scores (all net) will be:

• Scores of both players count on all par threes (5 = 10 scores, par 30).
• Scores of only one player counts on all par fives (3 = 3 scores, par 15).
• That leaves 10 par fours, and you must take 12 scores, with at least four from each player (par 48).

Even net will thus be 30 + 15 + 48 = 93.

All net at 70% course handicaps, and you can decide which 12 scores you're taking on the par fours at the end of the round. You don't have to decide right upon the completion of each hole. This is lower than usual, but… you only need to count nine scores: five par threes and four par fours. (Your teammate would have to count 5 + 8 + 3, though.)

Any questions? Please, double-check my math. The link above is a link to the scorecard, too. So check that, please.

Any thoughts? I'm not going to insist on this, but I thought it'd be interesting.

Payouts for the team game will be ($20 per team, 10 teams = $200):

• First Place: $80
• Second Place: $50
• Third Place: $40
• Fourth Place: $20
• Fifth Place: $10

Math is hard.

Did you forget where I went to school?

[billchao]

The game is fine. I don’t like 70% handicaps. I think that puts my playing handicap at 13 with a 15.6 index. Seems off.

[iacas]

1 hour ago, billchao said:

The game is fine. I don’t like 70% handicaps. I think that puts my playing handicap at 13 with a 15.6 index. Seems off.

You might only need to count 9 of your scores.

If you were counting 18 scores 70% would be a bit low. I think 70% is a bit high actually. Between two players (36 holes) you are only counting 25 scores (10 + 12 + 3).

Do 25/36 and tell me what that percentage is. 😀

[saevel25]

15 hours ago, iacas said:

he course has five par threes and three par fives (13 and 18 play as par fours for men). It's par 35-35. So the team scores (all net) will be:

• Scores of both players count on all par threes (5 = 10 scores, par 30).
• Scores of only one player counts on all par fives (3 = 3 scores, par 15).
• That leaves 10 par fours, and you must take 12 scores, with at least four from each player (par 48).

Even net will thus be 30 + 15 + 48 = 93.

All net at 70% course handicaps, and you can decide which 12 scores you're taking on the par fours at the end of the round. You don't have to decide right upon the completion of each hole. This is lower than usual, but… you only need to count nine scores: five par threes and four par fours. (Your teammate would have to count 5 + 8 + 3, though.)

Ok just to word it in a different way. 

So, the range of scores taken for a one of the players on a team is... 
5 scores on par 3's
4-7 scores on par 4's
0-3 scores on par 5's

So, if the score for Player A is taken on all the par 5's. Then Player B must have 7 of their scores taken on a par 4's to get to 12. 

1 hour ago, billchao said:

The game is fine. I don’t like 70% handicaps. I think that puts my playing handicap at 13 with a 15.6 index. Seems off.

Since this is sort of a best ball type situation. 2 out of 4 (50% of a team) best ball is 80% handicap. 4 out 4 (using both scores) is 100%. 

(5/18)*100%+(13/18)*80% = 85% if we used ever hole.

Since we are taking best 12 out of 18, you cut that down to 57%, so let's say 60% 😉

Want that extra 10%? 😛 

[iacas]

1 hour ago, saevel25 said:

Ok just to word it in a different way. 

So, the range of scores taken for a one of the players on a team is... 
5 scores on par 3's
4-7 scores on par 4's
0-3 scores on par 5's

So, if the score for Player A is taken on all the par 5's. Then Player B must have 7 of their scores taken on a par 4's to get to 12.

No. 4-8 scores on par fours.

Pat fours will either be four and eight, five and seven, or six and six.

Par 4 holes you can have one player taking a score, no players taking a score, or both players taking a score. You just have to get to 12 with four coming from each player over the round.