2023 Ryder Cup

[snow bird]

Another consideration. This is the first RC since the inception of  LIV golf. Only one USA player Koepka is from the LIV tour. 

[iacas]

  On 9/2/2023 at 4:05 AM, snow bird said:

Another consideration. This is the first RC since the inception of  LIV golf. Only one USA player Koepka is from the LIV tour. 

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What's to "consider" about it?

Almost all of the Euro players are ineligible. DJ and Reed have not played well. Bryson literally put his name on the lawsuit against the PGA Tour players.

[pganapathy]

I have a simple question here.  I get the whole LIV golf vs PGA fight.  But what should the two captains be looking for.  The best players who can help USA / Europe win.  If that means you take a player everybody else hates but guarantees you three points, you do that.  If the player is an amateur or plays for LIV, so what.  The most important thing is winning the Ryder Cup, not picking your friends, people who play in the PGA tour or are nice.

Or am I missing something here??

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[iacas]

  On 9/2/2023 at 8:17 AM, pganapathy said:

I have a simple question here.  I get the whole LIV golf vs PGA fight.  But what should the two captains be looking for.  The best players who can help USA / Europe win.  If that means you take a player everybody else hates but guarantees you three points, you do that.  If the player is an amateur or plays for LIV, so what.  The most important thing is winning the Ryder Cup, not picking your friends, people who play in the PGA tour or are nice.

Or am I missing something here??

🤷‍♂️

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You're missing that:

• On the European side, they're literally not eligible.
• On the U.S. side, "everybody hates" might describe one or two of the players on their OWN team, and so one player could screw with the mojo of the other 11.

[turtleback]

  On 9/2/2023 at 8:17 AM, pganapathy said:

I have a simple question here.  I get the whole LIV golf vs PGA fight.  But what should the two captains be looking for.  The best players who can help USA / Europe win.  If that means you take a player everybody else hates but guarantees you three points, you do that.  If the player is an amateur or plays for LIV, so what.  The most important thing is winning the Ryder Cup, not picking your friends, people who play in the PGA tour or are nice.

Or am I missing something here??

🤷‍♂️

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Well one thing you're missing is that there is no player that guarantees you three points.

Another is that even if there were, their effect on the rest of the team could cost them more than three points.

[Flipped]

A little anti - northeast perhaps? Blowing over BOTH Bradley and Young?!?

Thomas is out of form, but let’s hope he’s restores it in Italy. 

[Zeph]

This is not a new thing. Captains has been picking players with worse current form, but a strong cup history for a long time. Both on the US and Europe team. We’ll never know if other players would have done better after the cup is concluded.

[GolfLug]

RC is above all....entertainment. JT is RC royalty. Form not necessary..😊

[snapfade]

  On 9/4/2023 at 11:05 AM, GolfLug said:

RC is above all....entertainment. JT is RC royalty. Form not necessary..😊

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You want entertainment? Then next RC, just pick the names out of a hat two weeks before the RC. No automatic spots, no captains picks. Just 12 dudes blindsided. The captains would be McCord and Feherty. Feherty is with LIV now but won't matter since there is now talk of a PGAT/LIV combined tour in 2025. 

[GolfLug]

  On 9/4/2023 at 3:08 PM, snapfade said:

You want entertainment? Then next RC, just pick the names out of a hat two weeks before the RC. No automatic spots, no captains picks. Just 12 dudes blindsided. The captains would be McCord and Feherty. Feherty is with LIV now but won't matter since there is now talk of a PGAT/LIV combined tour in 2025. 

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You had me till you said McCord..

[snapfade]

  On 9/4/2023 at 5:05 PM, GolfLug said:

You had me till you said McCord..

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OK, so who's your captains pick? John Daly with Tommy Two Gloves Gainey as co-captain. Let's look deep in the basement. Mac O'Grady with Ken Green as co-captain.

[GolfLug]

  On 9/4/2023 at 5:40 PM, snapfade said:

OK, so who's your captains pick? John Daly with Tommy Two Gloves Gainey as co-captain. 

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We are still talking golf, not go-go bar type entertainment, aren't we? Lol

Team match play very very different than individual stroke play. If I were any of the other 11 players I would feel great about being paired with JT.

[NZ Golfer]

pretty happy with the EURO capt picks ... bring it on... my money on the EURO ...Alberg to have a brilliant rookie performance 

 

 

[NZ Golfer]

 

[Flipped]

Since the Arnie:

•62% of his rounds were 70+

•80% of his pressure rounds (Sunday or Friday when missing cut ) were 70+

• 41% of his rounds over par

•only went low twice (at docile River Highlands)

 

Something’s going on with JT. Not Ryder Cup material. Hoping Zach sees something in his crystal ball.

 

[Vinsk]

  On 9/4/2023 at 8:59 PM, NZ Golfer said:

pretty happy with the EURO capt picks ... bring it on... my money on the EURO ...Alberg to have a brilliant rookie performance 

 

 

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What do you think about Meronk getting snubbed?

[snapfade]

 

Meronk will go to LIV for 63 million.

Keegan will go to LIV for 97 million.

Finau will go to LIV for 50 bucks.

But seriously, I'd take Meronk over Lowery.  

[klineka]

  On 9/2/2023 at 11:40 PM, Flipped said:

A little anti - northeast perhaps? Blowing over BOTH Bradley and Young?!?

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You honestly think that ZJ factored in where every player was from and used that as a consideration factor to not choose someone? Absurd.

Also I highly doubt he "blew over" Bradley and Young, it was likely a tough decision that came down to some intangibles.

Both teams employ a team of consultants to pour over stats, analyze course fit, pairings, scenarios, who should play what ball based on spin rates, who should tee off on what holes based on proximity from certain yardages and certain lies, etc. It's HIGHLY unlikely that ZJ simply "blew over" Bradley and Young when making his picks.