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I've been studying the golf swing and the modern type motion compared to the classic since last night. It seems the classic swing has more to offer as well as a safer route to less injury. The modern swing has you turning your shoulders against your hips then turning your hips the opposite way, which in that case is twisting the spine, which in turn can cause injury. It would be much more preferred if the swing was done with the hips turning with the shoulders, the left heel lift and the entire body initiate the downswing. I don't know, but that sounds much more efficient and much less painful. What do you guys think? Once again thank you for your concern and you replies. I deeply appreciate them.

Please take this in the manner in which it's intended…

You're continuing to lump all "modern" and "classic" swings into one or two buckets, and you really, really don't have the knowledge base to make these determinations.

"Since last night?" Surely you realize how goofy that sounds, even if you did stay at a Holiday Inn Express, right?

FWIW I teach a swing that lets the hips rotate on the backswing. You haven't paid much attention to many of the threads here if you think that I'm teaching that the upper body turns against your hips much.

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I've been studying the golf swing and the modern type motion compared to the classic since last night.

Congratulations you are now an expert. Your certificates in the mail. :doh:

Yours in earnest, Jason.
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Not to get off topic. But the auto biography on Mike Austin was a great read.. Man had an interesting life Rip mike

Like working on the swing,,score means nothing to me. Might just go to the range and give up playing... ( might happen)

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I read a book about Mike's swing some time ago. Very interesting read. I would not recommend learning his swing without him actually teaching you. He would need to know how you're built. Every person is different, Erik, Dave and Mike (MVMAC) take that into account. I am only at keys 1-3 and hit very solidly and feel great. The swing feels natural. PM them and it will be worth every penny you spend. Trust me. Almost ready for a myswing thread. :-)

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I haven't studied Mike Austin's swing in details but saw a lot of the videos and followed discussions in various forums. It's a swing that is optimised to produce maximum speed, with lot of moving body parts (hand throw, arm throw, lots of lower body drive). In such it is rather efficient it seems but it looks like it requires good athletic abilities (coordination and proprioception) to make it consistent enough for people that can't practice several times a week.

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well true that "since last night" is kindof blind ive decided to take a closer look at what i'm writing. I write randomly (obviously) and just let my thoughts out as they come. I apologize for my lack of knowedge on golf and the swing. I used to be a 30 handicap (which i failed to mention) But it wasnt established at the time because i had only played 4 rounds. I've actually improved to an 18 recently after playing five more rounds recently plus the original ten. How do I change my handicap index? Once again i deeply apologize for my stupidity and my ignorance. And thank you for pointing it out. I dont read what i write i just write it. So i will read over this right now and make sure i'm not being stupid or anything.

By the way since my last post ive studied the classic swing more carefully. it seems as if classic swingers turn their hips with their shoulders and not against them. They also allow their left heel to lift. I will continue my study. I apologize if i wasted you guy's time. I feel deeply grieved. I just feel so stupid. :(((

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By the way since my last post ive studied the classic swing more carefully. it seems as if classic swingers turn their hips with their shoulders and not against them. They also allow their left heel to lift. I will continue my study. I apologize if i wasted you guy's time. I feel deeply grieved. I just feel so stupid. :(((

That's all fine. No big deal. Just remember that there's a lot more out there to the golf swing than lumping a bunch of people into only a few buckets and there's more than can be learned in a day, a night, a month, or even a year.

Also, I'll NEVER have a problem here with anyone who is a seeker, or an Explorer, looking to find and continue to learn and grow.

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well true that "since last night" is kindof blind ive decided to take a closer look at what i'm writing. I write randomly (obviously) and just let my thoughts out as they come. I apologize for my lack of knowedge on golf and the swing. I used to be a 30 handicap (which i failed to mention) But it wasnt established at the time because i had only played 4 rounds. I've actually improved to an 18 recently after playing five more rounds recently plus the original ten. How do I change my handicap index? Once again i deeply apologize for my stupidity and my ignorance. And thank you for pointing it out. I dont read what i write i just write it. So i will read over this right now and make sure i'm not being stupid or anything.

By the way since my last post ive studied the classic swing more carefully. it seems as if classic swingers turn their hips with their shoulders and not against them. They also allow their left heel to lift. I will continue my study. I apologize if i wasted you guy's time. I feel deeply grieved. I just feel so stupid. :(((


Not to put a damper on your topic, but it seems like Mike Austins swing is something you might be able to do on top of the "modern swing" as you put it. I can't really tell what's different except the "throwing the arm" bit. This seems like something you should NOT attempt to do unless your other swing mechanics are nearly perfect.

You can find out more about his swing here: http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/austin.htm

Maybe someone more knowledgeable can shed some light on the differences.

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Not to put a damper on your topic, but it seems like Mike Austins swing is something you might be able to do on top of the "modern swing" as you put it. I can't really tell what's different except the "throwing the arm" bit. This seems like something you should NOT attempt to do unless your other swing mechanics are nearly perfect.

You can find out more about his swing here: http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/austin.htm

Maybe someone more knowledgeable can shed some light on the differences.

A modern swing has its limits as well as an Austin swing.


What many modern swing systems have done is to add excessive cordination with timing.
Injury happens due to the player wants to hit it longer but cant due to the system itself wont allow longer without going outside their limitations.
If the player reside inside the golf systems limitations then they be fine.
When someone would say that having athletic ability would be worse to have when swinging a golf club is pure lies spread in the golf community.
The more athletic a swing is that helps with timing and action as its easier to do than a position based swing which a modern swing would make you do.
While both can be mastered the modern swing will make you a short hitter and more inconsistent and will risk the chance for injury.

Anyone says otherwise they are lying or being ignorant.

An austin swing will make you hit longer and will lessen the risk for injury by having a more athletic approach.
It dosnt mean you cant be injuried or that there isnt positions to match but we are dealing with relevances of chance here.
People can be injuried in baseball if they dont warm up at age 50 decided to do a home run and then strain a muscle.
Cant blame baseball by being stupid at the same time.

If you dont have an austin trainer close by you either need to travel or spending a lot of time mapping what they want you to do online and its likely you are better off with a local teacher one you find suits you no matter the swing system they teach.
Finding one good can be a hassle though.

The difference with an Austin swing is distance but also increased accuracy with lessen dispersion patterns.
The guy I apply this for was a 300 yard hitter with the old modern swing but also caused back injury.
He wasnt that long when we started out but the distance gain I helped him achieve caused him stress and injury due to modern swing limitations
Currently I am assisting him to be a 350yard hitter within the realm of the austin mechanics while increasing accuracy for the game of golf.
No issue with his back or injury anymore though.

And before anyone asks, no I dont teach amateurs currently as I only interested in tour level performances.
if your a PGA or LPGA player then I am interested.

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A modern swing has its limits as well as an Austin swing.

What many modern swing systems have done is to add excessive cordination with timing.

Injury happens due to the player wants to hit it longer but cant due to the system itself wont allow longer without going outside their limitations.

If the player reside inside the golf systems limitations then they be fine.

When someone would say that having athletic ability would be worse to have when swinging a golf club is pure lies spread in the golf community.

The more athletic a swing is that helps with timing and action as its easier to do than a position based swing which a modern swing would make you do.

While both can be mastered the modern swing will make you a short hitter and more inconsistent and will risk the chance for injury.

Anyone says otherwise they are lying or being ignorant.

An austin swing will make you hit longer and will lessen the risk for injury by having a more athletic approach.

It dosnt mean you cant be injuried or that there isnt positions to match but we are dealing with relevances of chance here.

People can be injuried in baseball if they dont warm up at age 50 decided to do a home run and then strain a muscle.

Cant blame baseball by being stupid at the same time.

If you dont have an austin trainer close by you either need to travel or spending a lot of time mapping what they want you to do online and its likely you are better off with a local teacher one you find suits you no matter the swing system they teach.

Finding one good can be a hassle though.

The difference with an Austin swing is distance but also increased accuracy with lessen dispersion patterns.

The guy I apply this for was a 300 yard hitter with the old modern swing but also caused back injury.

He wasnt that long when we started out but the distance gain I helped him achieve caused him stress and injury due to modern swing limitations

Currently I am assisting him to be a 350yard hitter within the realm of the austin mechanics while increasing accuracy for the game of golf.

No issue with his back or injury anymore though.

And before anyone asks, no I dont teach amateurs currently as I only interested in tour level performances.

if your a PGA or LPGA player then I am interested.

You have no worries ...

the combo of the Austin swing, target market and location has its own limitations.

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You have no worries ...

the combo of the Austin swing, target market and location has its own limitations.

Don't forget that 8 hcp.....

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[QUOTE name="Lihu" url="/t/70971/mike-austin#post_921364"]   Not to put a damper on your topic, but it seems like Mike Austins swing is something you might be able to do on top of the "modern swing" as you put it. I can't really tell what's different except the "throwing the arm" bit. This seems like something you should NOT attempt to do unless your other swing mechanics are nearly perfect. You can find out more about his swing here: [URL=http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/austin.htm]http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/austin.htm[/URL] Maybe someone more knowledgeable can shed some light on the differences. [/QUOTE] A modern swing has its limits as well as an Austin swing. What many modern swing systems have done is to add excessive cordination with timing. Injury happens due to the player wants to hit it longer but cant due to the system itself wont allow longer without going outside their limitations. If the player reside inside the golf systems limitations then they be fine. When someone would say that having athletic ability would be worse to have when swinging a golf club is pure lies spread in the golf community. The more athletic a swing is that helps with timing and action as its easier to do than a position based swing which a modern swing would make you do. While both can be mastered the modern swing will make you a short hitter and more inconsistent and will risk the chance for injury. Anyone says otherwise they are lying or being ignorant. An austin swing will make you hit longer and will lessen the risk for injury by having a more athletic approach. It dosnt mean you cant be injuried or that there isnt positions to match but we are dealing with relevances of chance here. People can be injuried in baseball if they dont warm up at age 50 decided to do a home run and then strain a muscle. Cant blame baseball by being stupid at the same time. If you dont have an austin trainer close by you either need to travel or spending a lot of time mapping what they want you to do online and its likely you are better off with a local teacher one you find suits you no matter the swing system they teach. Finding one good can be a hassle though. The difference with an Austin swing is distance but also increased accuracy with lessen dispersion patterns. The guy I apply this for was a 300 yard hitter with the old modern swing but also caused back injury. He wasnt that long when we started out but the distance gain I helped him achieve caused him stress and injury due to modern swing limitations Currently I am assisting him to be a 350yard hitter within the realm of the austin mechanics while increasing accuracy for the game of golf. No issue with his back or injury anymore though. And before anyone asks, no I dont teach amateurs currently as I only interested in tour level performances. if your a PGA or LPGA player then I am interested.

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A modern swing has its limits as well as an Austin swing.

What many modern swing systems have done is to add excessive cordination with timing.

Injury happens due to the player wants to hit it longer but cant due to the system itself wont allow longer without going outside their limitations.

If the player reside inside the golf systems limitations then they be fine.

When someone would say that having athletic ability would be worse to have when swinging a golf club is pure lies spread in the golf community.

The more athletic a swing is that helps with timing and action as its easier to do than a position based swing which a modern swing would make you do.

While both can be mastered the modern swing will make you a short hitter and more inconsistent and will risk the chance for injury.

Anyone says otherwise they are lying or being ignorant.

An austin swing will make you hit longer and will lessen the risk for injury by having a more athletic approach.

It dosnt mean you cant be injuried or that there isnt positions to match but we are dealing with relevances of chance here.

People can be injuried in baseball if they dont warm up at age 50 decided to do a home run and then strain a muscle.

Cant blame baseball by being stupid at the same time.

If you dont have an austin trainer close by you either need to travel or spending a lot of time mapping what they want you to do online and its likely you are better off with a local teacher one you find suits you no matter the swing system they teach.

Finding one good can be a hassle though.

The difference with an Austin swing is distance but also increased accuracy with lessen dispersion patterns.

The guy I apply this for was a 300 yard hitter with the old modern swing but also caused back injury.

He wasnt that long when we started out but the distance gain I helped him achieve caused him stress and injury due to modern swing limitations

Currently I am assisting him to be a 350yard hitter within the realm of the austin mechanics while increasing accuracy for the game of golf.

No issue with his back or injury anymore though.

And before anyone asks, no I dont teach amateurs currently as I only interested in tour level performances.

if your a PGA or LPGA player then I am interested.

Okay I'll bite...what exactly qualifies you to teach tour professionals?

 

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And before anyone asks, no I dont teach amateurs currently as I only interested in tour level performances.

if your a PGA or LPGA player then I am interested.

Well in that case I guess most of us are officially out of this conversation.

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Don't forget that 8 hcp.....

Heck, I once had a Haney Instructor whose swing looked nothing like he taught… probably an 8 capper. Of course, my swing looked like nothing he taught...

It was "hasta la vista, baby…"

But he didn't mind teaching any hc with a decent temperament and a few dollars more.

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People can be injuried in baseball if they dont warm up at age 50 decided to do a home run and then strain a muscle.

Ahh the dangers of "doing a home run". It'll getcha every time.

Just out of curiosity, who are some of the tour players you have instructed. I'm sure as an aspiring swing coach you would like to get some exposure with your current or past pupils' success?

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Okay I'll bite...what exactly qualifies you to teach tour professionals?

He has a major belief in his philosophy...insomuch as believing in random, sometimes contradictory concepts can be deemed a philosophy.

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A modern swing has its limits as well as an Austin swing.

What many modern swing systems have done is to add excessive cordination with timing.

Injury happens due to the player wants to hit it longer but cant due to the system itself wont allow longer without going outside their limitations.

If the player reside inside the golf systems limitations then they be fine.

When someone would say that having athletic ability would be worse to have when swinging a golf club is pure lies spread in the golf community.

The more athletic a swing is that helps with timing and action as its easier to do than a position based swing which a modern swing would make you do.

While both can be mastered the modern swing will make you a short hitter and more inconsistent and will risk the chance for injury.

Anyone says otherwise they are lying or being ignorant.

An austin swing will make you hit longer and will lessen the risk for injury by having a more athletic approach.

It dosnt mean you cant be injuried or that there isnt positions to match but we are dealing with relevances of chance here.

People can be injuried in baseball if they dont warm up at age 50 decided to do a home run and then strain a muscle.

Cant blame baseball by being stupid at the same time.

If you dont have an austin trainer close by you either need to travel or spending a lot of time mapping what they want you to do online and its likely you are better off with a local teacher one you find suits you no matter the swing system they teach.

Finding one good can be a hassle though.

The difference with an Austin swing is distance but also increased accuracy with lessen dispersion patterns.

The guy I apply this for was a 300 yard hitter with the old modern swing but also caused back injury.

He wasnt that long when we started out but the distance gain I helped him achieve caused him stress and injury due to modern swing limitations

Currently I am assisting him to be a 350yard hitter within the realm of the austin mechanics while increasing accuracy for the game of golf.

No issue with his back or injury anymore though.

And before anyone asks, no I dont teach amateurs currently as I only interested in tour level performances.

if your a PGA or LPGA player then I am interested.

Me too,  I don't know crap about the swing and I'm only a 15.5 but I do not teach amateurs either.  But if anyone on here is a PGA Pro or an LPGA Pro player then I'd be interested in teaching you  Buy.com guys need not apply.

There is a hefty up-front retainer . . .

But then again, what the hell do I know?

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