The 2012 Masters Discussion Thread

[turtleback]

Originally Posted by rossvanwyk

Turtleback, I think you're being unfair. Jason Day is a great player and has proven so, being there and there abouts quite a few times. He had a great masters last year. Westwood? You're really going to be sarcastic and insult Westwood? He's a great player. Yang has beaten Tiger head to head. But I'm sure there's some reason for that somewhere. Couldn't have been a fair win...

Sad that Ernie didn't make the cut this year but still a few of my SA lads to cheer on. Hoping Charl and Louis can turn it on and swing it smooth.

Come on the Masters!!!

You're missing the point.  I was responding to a post that basically said whenever Tiger won it was against weak competition, but Rory won against tough competition.  Day MAY turn out to be a great player.  Lee MAY go down as a great player.  But NOBODY goes down as a great player without winning at least one major.  I have no problem with Yang.  He won fair and square and is a legitimate major winner.  But Day and Lee are not and for all we know may never be.  We'll see.  But we KNOW that the guys I mention who Tiger played against all won majors, some several majors.

Agree on Ernie.  I'd love to see ANGC institute an informal policy that when a player has qualified for 15 or more straight Masters they get a one time special invitation the first year they fail to qualify.  But I am not going to hate on ANGC if they don't.

[k-troop]

Originally Posted by turtleback

You're missing the point.  I was responding to a post that basically said whenever Tiger won it was against weak competition, but Rory won against tough competition.

Yeah, not really sure where he was going with that.  He's basically saying that Tiger's fields were handicapped by fear, and Rory's win was against a field that was freed from Tiger oppression.  It's an argument, but I don't buy it either.

[mvmac]

Cool 'behind the scenes" video

[mrchi]

Awesome!!! Thanks for sharing this!

Originally Posted by mvmac

Cool 'behind the scenes" video

[brocks]

Dustin Johnson has withdrawn with a bad back, according to TGC. Must be really bad, for him to do it this early.

[xxsoultonesxx]

Dustin wasn't one of my picks this year, but he was a player I was looking forward to watching. I'm sure it's tough walking away from Augusta. Maybe he freed up a spot for Ernie?

[nevets88]

The pairings:

• 7:40 a.m.:Arnold Palmer, Gary Player, Jack Nicklaus (honorary starters)

• 7:50 a.m.:Craig Stadler, Brendan Steele, Tim Clark

• 8:01 a.m.:Jose Maria Olazabal, Robert Garrigus, Randal Lewis

• 8:12 a.m.:Larry Mize, Paul Lawrie, Anders Hansen

• 8:23 a.m.:Ross Fisher, Ryan Palmer, Harrison Frazar

• 8:34 a.m.:Ben Crenshaw, Robert Karlsson, Bryden Macpherson

• 8:45 a.m.:Adam Scott, Bo Van Pelt, Martin Kaymer

• 8:56 a.m.:Steve Stricker, Padraig Harrington, Stewart Cink

• 9:07 a.m.:Aaron Baddeley, Kyung-Tae Kim, Lucas Glover

• 9:18 a.m.:Kyle Stanley, Jason Day, Bill Haas

• 9:29 a.m.:Trevor Immelman, Rickie Fowler, Justin Rose

• 9:40 a.m.:Tom Watson, Johnson Wagner, Hideki Matsuyama

• 10:02 a.m.:Matt Kuchar, Geoff Ogilvy, Yong-Eun Yang

• 10:13 a.m.:Gary Woodland, Henrik Stenson, Alvaro Quiros

• 10:24 a.m.:Charl Schwartzel, Keegan Bradley, Kelly Kraft

• 10:35 a.m.:Tiger Woods, Miguel Angel Jimenez, Sang-Moon Bae

• 10:46 a.m.:Luke Donald, Francesco Molinari, Nick Watney

• 10:57 a.m.:Scott Verplank, Sean O'Hair, Gonzalo Fernandez-Castano

• 11:08 a.m.:Mark O'Meara, Chez Reavie, Martin Laird

• 11:19 a.m.:Sandy Lyle, Simon Dyson, Corbin Mills

• 11:30 a.m.:Ian Woosnam, Edoardo Molinari, Kevin Chappell

• 11:41 a.m.:Louis Oosthuizen, Mark Wilson, Graeme McDowell

• 11:52 a.m.:Zach Johnson, Ian Poulter, Patrick Cantlay

• 12:14 p.m.:Kevin Na, Fredrik Jacobson, Ben Crane

• 12:25 p.m.:John Senden, Jonathan Byrd, Paul Casey

• 12:36 p.m.:Bernhard Langer, Jason Dufner, Charles Howell III

• 12:47 p.m.:Mike Weir, Brandt Snedeker, Webb Simpson

• 12:58 p.m.:Vijay Singh, Lee Westwood, Jim Furyk

• 1:09 p.m.:Thomas Bjorn, Scott Stallings, Rory Sabbatini

• 1:20 p.m.:Fred Couples, Darren Clarke, Ryo Ishikawa

• 1:31 p.m.:David Toms, K. J. Choi, Sergio Garcia

• 1:42 p.m.:Angel Cabrera, Rory McIlroy, Bubba Watson

• 1:53 p.m.:Phil Mickelson, Hunter Mahan, Peter Hanson

[iacas]

Originally Posted by xxsoultonesxx

Dustin wasn't one of my picks this year, but he was a player I was looking forward to watching. I'm sure it's tough walking away from Augusta. Maybe he freed up a spot for Ernie?

I don't think they're going to invite a guy on Tuesday. They lock the field Sunday night IIRC.

Steve, those are "groupings." You can't pair three players. ;)

P.S. Stupid Masters website . :D

[mvmac]

Justin Rose just called Magnolia Lane, Magnolia "Drive".  Kick'em out

[scottyjoe145]

Winner: Phil Mickelson

Runner Up: Tiger Woods or Luke Donald

Contenders: Hunter Mahan, Rory McIlroy, Brandt Snedeker

Dark Horse: Bo Van Pelt

[nevets88]

Doh! You could say each group has 3 pairings?

Originally Posted by iacas

Steve, those are "groupings." You can't pair three players. ;)

P.S. Stupid Masters website. :D

Anyone reading anything into the groupings?

Woodland and Quiros - did Stenson do something to offend TPTB?

Young guns - Day, Haas, Stanley

Toms, Choi, Garcia - interesting.

[darkhunter139]

I am going to miss the first round because of work but I am off Friday so I will be able to catch the last 3 rounds! Looking forward to the weekend.

[iacas]

BTW guys, we're doing this again this year. Sign up now if you want the email notification, otherwise we'll see you Sunday when the final round begins: http://thesandtrap.com/b/pga/2012_masters_tournament_final_round_live_chat

[xxsoultonesxx]

Originally Posted by iacas

BTW guys, we're doing this again this year. Sign up now if you want the email notification, otherwise we'll see you Sunday when the final round begins: http://thesandtrap.com/b/pga/2012_masters_tournament_final_round_live_chat

These are fun!

Come for the knowledgable insight, stay for the outlandish banter.

Crack out the laptop at the couch in front of the big screen on Sunday, crack a beer and join up. The more the merrier!

[iacas]

Originally Posted by xxsoultonesxx

These are fun!

Come for the knowledgable insight, stay for the outlandish banter.

Crack out the laptop at the couch in front of the big screen on Sunday, crack a beer and join up. The more the merrier!

I think this year we may add a Twitter feed or two as well, perhaps the official Masters one (do they have one?) or some writer on the grounds or something.

[Desert Glory]

Justin Rose should be in the mix. He's been playing very well and has thrown in some nice rounds at Augusta. I like Keegan Bradley but his putting has been sketchy on Sundays recently when in contention.

One thing for sure, it'll be interesting. Look at what happened to Rory last year and Kenny Perry in 2009. That guy had it won with 2 holes to play.

Enjoy everyone!

[WWBDD]

Rory

Matt

KJ

Darkhorse - Mike Weir

[bplewis24]

I loved Keegan Bradley's tongue-in-cheek reply when asked how tough it would be to win the Masters in his first trip:

"Well, I've won every Major I've ever played in."

Brandon