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It is imperative that you freeze for a 5 count prior to beginning your backswing (this is mainly Mike's belief)
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Advice I hate the most "release the club". I believe that is the title of an old thread.

-Matt-

"does it still count as a hit fairway if it is the next one over"

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Keep your head down

Keep your left arm straight

A shank is an almost perfect shot


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Quiet feet and a violent swing equals more power and stability in your swing.

"Luck is where opportunity meets preparation.."


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Golf club grooves really don't do much. They are only there so you can attempt to hit the ball straight when its wet.

In my  bag:

Driver, Callaway Diablo Edge Tour 9.5 stiff

3, 5 woods: Callaway Diablo Edge Tour 15,18 degrees Stiff

2 hybrid: Callaway Diable Edge Tour 18 degrees R (out when the 5 wood is in)

3,6 hybrids: Callaway Diablo Edge 21 S and 30 degrees R

4,5 hybrids: Callaway Razr X HL 24 and 27 degrees Stiff

7-AW irons: Callaway Razr HL graphite R shafts 

SW 54 Callaway X Series Jaws CC Slate Fujikura Graphite Stiff

Putter: Odessey White Ice 1 Blade Putter. 

Ball...looking for any ball that hates water, sand, long grass, and getting lost in the woods. 

I can't find any, so forced to use ones that seem to love all the above. 


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I've got plenty of TST ball markers so here are a bunch that mostly aren't about the golf swing: [LIST] [*] Draws have topspin. [*] You should be able to move your ball out of a sand-filled (or not-filled) divot in the fairway. [*] The Rules should be one page long. And even that's pushing it. Short enough to be able to chisel into a normal-sized flagstone would be ideal. [*] For that last one, don't define "normal-sized flagstone." We all basically know what that means, so it's good enough. Numerically-defined dimensions are for sissies. [*] Butch Harmon deserves a Ph.D. in science. [*] S&T is many, many golf swings. Seriously, it's basically all swings, that's just how dynamic a system it is. [*] Oakmont should be razed and redone from scratch. Total waste of space. [*] Jeff Mann is awesome! [*] The less bounce, the better. Leading edges should be like a fine-honed samurai sword. In fact, I have one of those metal sticks that come with knife sets in my golf bag to I can sharpen the edge when I'm waiting for the group in front of me to tee off. [*] Have you guys tried Windows 8? AMAZING! [*] I use V1 exclusively, because glitches are fun. [*] The only thing worse than Homeland is Aaron Sorkin. Seriously, it's all talking talking talking, dialogue dialogue dialogue. And get Olivia Munn off my TV, she ruins The Newsroom ! [/LIST] EDIT: Thought of another one. [LIST] [*] Erik, Eric, the spelling doesn't really matter. :-P [/LIST]
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Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

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Mike has a better swing than Eric.

But then again, what the hell do I know?

Rich - in name only

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Eric has a better swing than Mike.

But then again, what the hell do I know?

Rich - in name only

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Originally Posted by iacas

Oh, and Mike doesn't know I'm doing this, so he's in for quite a surprise. :)

LOL just found out at 11:30 on Sat night and yes I'm surprised.. GREAT idea!   Remember guys "Enter" as often as you like!

Originally Posted by Golfingdad

It is imperative that you freeze for a 5 count prior to beginning your backswing (this is mainly Mike's belief)

Disqualified, can't make fun of my tourettes LOL

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Originally Posted by jamo

I've got plenty of TST ball markers so here are a bunch that mostly aren't about the golf swing:

Draws have topspin.

You should be able to move your ball out of a sand-filled (or not-filled) divot in the fairway.

The Rules should be one page long. And even that's pushing it. Short enough to be able to chisel into a normal-sized flagstone would be ideal.

For that last one, don't define "normal-sized flagstone." We all basically know what that means, so it's good enough. Numerically-defined dimensions are for sissies.

Butch Harmon deserves a Ph.D. in science.

S&T is many, many golf swings. Seriously, it's basically all swings, that's just how dynamic a system it is.

Oakmont should be razed and redone from scratch. Total waste of space.

Jeff Mann is awesome!

The less bounce, the better. Leading edges should be like a fine-honed samurai sword. In fact, I have one of those metal sticks that come with knife sets in my golf bag to I can sharpen the edge when I'm waiting for the group in front of me to tee off.

Have you guys tried Windows 8? AMAZING!

I use V1 exclusively, because glitches are fun.

The only thing worse than Homeland is Aaron Sorkin. Seriously, it's all talking talking talking, dialogue dialogue dialogue. And get Olivia Munn off my TV, she ruins The Newsroom!

Maybe the best post of the year, can't stop laughing

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There is nothing new in golf instruction. Everything that needs to be said already has been said. This new age 'sciency' stuff is BS. You want to be the best golfer you wanna be? The secret is in the dirt. Science? Empirical proof? Pfffttt.

Steve

Kill slow play. Allow walking. Reduce ineffective golf instruction. Use environmentally friendly course maintenance.

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The designations for positions and power accumulators in the swing (eg. P5, A2...) are unnecessary jargon and used by elitist members of this forum to exclude and otherwise marginalize uninitiated golfers.

In My Bag:

Adams Super LS 9.5˚ driver, Aldila Phenom NL 65TX
Adams Super LS 15˚ fairway, Kusala black 72x
Adams Super LS 18˚ fairway, Aldila Rip'd NV 75TX
Adams Idea pro VST hybrid, 21˚, RIP Alpha 105x
Adams DHY 24˚, RIP Alpha 89x
5-PW Maltby TE irons, KBS C taper X, soft stepped once 130g
Mizuno T4, 54.9 KBS Wedge X
Mizuno R12 60.5, black nickel, KBS Wedge X
Odyssey Metal X #1 putter 
Bridgestone E5, Adidas samba bag, True Linkswear Stealth
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Just swing the stupid club !!!!!!

My Bag:

 

Burner 9.5

X 3&5 Woods

DCI Gold 3- PW(48*) + 52* Vokey wedge

56* sand wedge

Cushin Putter


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The majority of golf instructors are excellent.

-Matt-

"does it still count as a hit fairway if it is the next one over"

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A trained human eye is better than a high speed camera for diagnosing swing faults.

-Matt-

"does it still count as a hit fairway if it is the next one over"

DRIVER-Callaway FTiz__3 WOOD-Nike SQ Dymo 15__HYBRIDS-3,4,5 Adams__IRONS-6-PW Adams__WEDGES-50,55,60 Wilson Harmonized__PUTTER-Odyssey Dual Force Rossie II

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There are 13 Complicated Keys to a consistent golf swing.

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Scott

Titleist, Edel, Scotty Cameron Putter, Snell - AimPoint - Evolvr - MirrorVision

My Swing Thread

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Don Trahan is the Man! Keep it vertical!

Yours in earnest, Jason.
Call me Ernest, or EJ or Ernie.

PSA - "If you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!"

My Whackin' Sticks: :cleveland: 330cc 2003 Launcher 10.5*  :tmade: RBZ HL 3w  :nickent: 3DX DC 3H, 3DX RC 4H  :callaway: X-22 5-AW  :nike:SV tour 56* SW :mizuno: MP-T11 60* LW :bridgestone: customized TD-03 putter :tmade:Penta TP3   :aimpoint:

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    • When you've been teaching golf as long as I have, you're going to find that you can teach some things better than you previously had, and you're probably going to find some things that you taught incorrectly. I don't see that as a bad thing — what would be worse is refusing to adapt and grow given new information. I've always said that my goal with my instruction isn't to be right, but it's to get things right. To that end, I'm about five years late in issuing a public proclamation on something… When I first got my GEARS system, I immediately looked at the golf swings of the dozens and dozens of Tour players for which I suddenly had full 3D data. I created a huge spreadsheet showing how their bodies moved, how the club moved, at various points in the swing. I mapped knee and elbow angles, hand speeds, shoulder turns and pelvis turns… etc. I re-considered what I thought I knew about the golf swing as performed by the best players. One of those things dated back to the earliest days: that you extend (I never taught "straighten" and would avoid using that word unless in the context of saying "don't fully straighten") the trail knee/leg in the backswing. I was mislead by 2D photos from less-than-ideal camera angles — the trail leg rotates a bit during the backswing, and so when observing trail knee flex should also use a camera that moves to stay perpendicular to the plane of the ankle/knee/hip joint. We have at least two topics here on this (here and here; both of which I'll be updating after publishing this) where @mvmac and I advise golfers to extend the trail knee. Learning that this was not right is one of the reasons I'm glad to have a 3D system, as most golfers generally preserve the trail knee flex throughout the backswing. Data Here's a video showing an iron and a driver of someone who has won the career slam: Here's what the graph of his right knee flex looks like. The solid lines I've positioned at the top of the backswing (GEARS aligns both swings at impact, the dashed line). Address is to the right, of course, and the graph shows knee flex from the two swings above. The data (17.56° and 23.20°) shows where this player is in both swings (orange being the yellow iron swing, pink the blue driver swing). You can see that this golfer extends his trail knee 2-3°… before bending it even more than that through the late backswing and early downswing. Months ago I created a quick Instagram video showing the trail knee flex in the backswing of several players (see the top for the larger number): Erik J. Barzeski (@iacas) • Instagram reel GEARS shares expert advice on golf swing technique, focusing on the critical backswing phase. Tour winners and major champions reveal the key to a precise and powerful swing, highlighting the importance of... Here are a few more graphs. Two LIV players and major champions: Two PGA Tour winners: Two women's #1 ranked players: Two more PGA Tour winners (one a major champ): Two former #1s, the left one being a woman, the right a man, with a driver: Two more PGA Tour players: You'll notice a trend: they almost all maintain roughly the same flex throughout their backswing and downswing. The Issues with Extending the Trail Knee You can play good golf extending (again, not "straightening") the trail knee. Some Tour players do. But, as with many things, if 95 out of 100 Tour players do it, you're most likely better off doing similarly to what they do. So, what are the issues with extending the trail knee in the backswing? To list a few: Pelvic Depth and Rotation Quality Suffers When the trail knee extends, the trail leg often acts like an axle on the backswing, with the pelvis rotating around the leg and the trail hip joint. This prevents the trail side from gaining depth, as is needed to keep the pelvis center from thrusting toward the ball. Most of the "early extension" (thrust) that I see occurs during the backswing. Encourages Early Extension (Thrust) Patterns When you've thrust and turned around the trail hip joint in the backswing, you often thrust a bit more in the downswing as the direction your pelvis is oriented is forward and "out" (to the right for a righty). Your trail leg can abduct to push you forward, but "forward" when your pelvis is turned like that is in the "thrust" direction. Additionally, the trail knee "breaking" again at the start of the downswing often jumps the trail hip out toward the ball a bit too much or too quickly. While the trail hip does move in that direction, if it's too fast or too much, it can prevent the lead side hip from getting "back" at the right rate, or at a rate commensurate with the trail hip to keep the pelvis center from thrusting. Disrupts the Pressure Shift/Transition When the trail leg extends too much, it often can't "push" forward normally. The forward push begins much earlier than forward motion begins — pushing forward begins as early as about P1.5 to P2 in the swings of most good golfers. It can push forward by abducting, again, but that's a weaker movement that shoves the pelvis forward (toward the target) and turns it more than it generally should (see the next point). Limits Internal Rotation of the Trail Hip Internal rotation of the trail hip is a sort of "limiter" on the backswing. I have seen many golfers on GEARS whose trail knee extends, whose pelvis shifts forward (toward the target), and who turn over 50°, 60°, and rarely but not never, over 70° in the backswing. If you turn 60° in the backswing, it's going to be almost impossible to get "open enough" in the downswing to arrive at a good impact position. Swaying/Lateral Motion Occasionally a golfer who extends the trail knee too much will shift back too far, but more often the issue is that the golfer will shift forward too early in the backswing (sometimes even immediately to begin the backswing), leaving them "stuck forward" to begin the downswing. They'll push forward, stop, and have to restart around P4, disrupting the smooth sequence often seen in the game's best players. Other Bits… Reduces ground reaction force potential, compromises spine inclination and posture, makes transition sequencing harder, increases stress on the trail knee and lower back… In short… It's not athletic. We don't do many athletic things with "straight" or very extended legs (unless it's the end of the action, like a jump or a big push off like a step in a running motion).
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