2013 Hyundai TOC Discussion Thread

[HackMan74]

OMG....Ian Poulter is the biggest, dramatic baby of all time! He was out there throwing a tantrum like a child. Isnt he a professional? Cant he play in some strong wind? I have played Kapalua a few times....it is ALWAYS windy up there. What a douchebag! Just play some golf!

[MyrtleBeachGolf]

OMG....Ian Poulter is the biggest, dramatic baby of all time! He was out there throwing a tantrum like a child. Isnt he a professional? Cant he play in some strong wind? I have played Kapalua a few times....it is ALWAYS windy up there. What a douchebag! Just play some golf!

Poulter is being a bit over dramatic. I know the wind is insane, but he's just being a baby at this point.

[newtogolf]

How's he going to hurt himself if the ball falls off?  Poulter earned a lot of respect from me during the Ryder Cup but he's losing it here with his whining and complaining.  He should just withdraw if he doesn't want to play.

[Elrey Desol]

i know these guys are the best in the world. and i know they are playing for their livelihood. but schadenfreude aside, it's it kinda fun to watch them play in less than ideal conditions.

i feel bad for Crane - that was a shitty break - but haven't we all been there? i enjoy watching the Pros toughing it out in crazy conditions, especially if there's no threat to injury (i.e. lightning).

[preisman]

aside from the slow pace, this is starting off to be really fun to watch. Seeing the pros struggle like I do makes me feel better. Never mind the fact the weather is crazy

[Frank-0-Sport]

Greetings ... For Everyone's Information -- Since the late 1990's, the PGA Tour policy has been that .... (1) A tournament win counts as official only if at least 54 holes are finished. (2) In cases where just 36 holes of play are finished, the win is not official, but money (as well as, presumably, Fed Ex points) is official. So There! Thanx-A-Lot and Steady as She Goes, Frank-0-Sport

[roperdad]

Too bad they had to kick the can again....  Listening to Johnny MIller basically call Ian Poulter an actress was kinda funny.  I honestly admire Poulter.  Johnny must not suffer the same fate

I hope they can get in 54 one way or another.  They have to win to get here and benefit from the jump start in earnings.  Hope tomorrow is a better day for them.

[mvmac]

Never heard of such a thing, three rounds in a row cancelled, crazy stuff

Quote:

Johnny Miller, the often-controversial color analyst for NBC Sports' golf coverage, commented about Poulter’s unwillingness to putt.

“You just can‘t stay over the putt that long. You've got to get in there, line it up and hit it,” Miller said initially about Poulter’s inaction. “He surely doesn’t have the Tom Watson attitude so far. He’s afraid he’s going to hurt himself, and that would probably set the game back 20 years.”

Poulter fired back on Twitter after hearing about Johnny's criticism:

“Johnny miller why don't you come interview me live and say that stuff straight to my face,” Poulter tweeted after the round. “Was you watching a different channel.”

Later in the evening, Poulter added another tweet about the commentary.

"Just watched coverage on @GolfChannel. Really sorry I took way to long on 11th.... Just trying to win a golf tournament. Trying to do my job"

[Frank-0-Sport]

Greetings .... [quote name="roperdad" url="/t/64017/2013-hyundai-toc-discussion-thread/18#post_796944"]I hope they can get in 54 one way or another.  They have to win to get here and benefit from the jump start in earnings.  Hope tomorrow is a better day for them.  [/quote] Like your words "benefit from the jump start in earnings" -- The Hyundai would be a better "jump start" for everyone if ..... (1) The event was scheduled as the calendar year's lead-off point at least a week later -- Unfortunately, the PGA Tour is presently just too long (and has been since the late 1990s) and -- thanks mainly to the WGC's Fed Ex Cup Playoffs -- not letting every event have some breathing space and the opportunity to attract the stars on a reasonably regular basis. (2) The purse was significantly better than its present below average amount of $5.70-million total and $1.14 million to the champion. It should be at least $8.0-million with a $1.44 million first prize. Also, the event should have enhanced Fed Ex Points, and the winner should get a 3-year exemption. (3) The invitational requirements were changed so that winners of a Grand Slam Major, the Players Championship, a Money/Fed Ex Title or the Hyundai T-of-C itself received three-year invites. Winners of WGC's and The Tour Championship would get two-year invites. Winners from the previous calendar year would still get their usual invites. If the T-of-C had a minimum starting field of, say, 50 players, and if it needed to fill out vacant spots, then it could reach back one calendar year more (As this is 2013, that would be 2011) and and select PGA Tour event winners from that particular year. The method of selection used could be Official World Golf Ranking Field Strength -- the winner of the highest ranked such event having first priority, and then repeating the process until the magic number of 50 is reached. Note -- I chose to go with the World Golf Ranking methods rather than Fed Ex Cup points or money because of the PGA Tour's changeover to a October-This-Year-to-September-Next-Year "wrap" schedule and some complications that would come with it. Thanx-A-Lot and Hope We Have Some Golf Today Frank-0-Sport

[jamo]

Greetings .... Like your words "benefit from the jump start in earnings" -- The Hyundai would be a better "jump start" for everyone if ..... (1) The event was scheduled as the calendar year's lead-off point at least a week later -- Unfortunately, the PGA Tour is presently just too long (and has been since the late 1990s) and -- thanks mainly to the WGC's Fed Ex Cup Playoffs -- not letting every event have some breathing space and the opportunity to attract the stars on a reasonably regular basis.

FWIW, the FedExCup Playoffs have nothing to do with the WGC.

[Frank-0-Sport]

Greetings ... That should be WGC's AND The Fed Ex Cup Playoffs -- My Bad! Thanx

[newtogolf]

Plan is to have the tournament start today and only play 36.  The winds aren't much better than yesterday so it should be interesting to see if they can finish 18 and have them count.   It's been fun to watch the pro's struggle with the wind but maybe some of these early tournaments should just be exhibitions and not count towards FedEx or season earnings.

[boogielicious]

Maybe they should just play closest to the pin on every hole.  I watch a bit of yesterday's coverage.  I was fun to watch the ball move on it's own.

[KiawahConnor]

Besides the wind moving the ball on the green, why can't they just play and shoot high scores? It would be refreshing to see Ian poulter shoot 126.

[WWBDD]

Just checked the leaderboard ...

http://www.pgatour.com/leaderboard.html

... go Dufner.

Will play continue tomorrow?

[mvmac]

Originally Posted by WWBDD

Just checked the leaderboard ...

http://www.pgatour.com/leaderboard.html

... go Dufner.

Will play continue tomorrow?

I think Dufner has been in the lead the previous three starts as well.  He was also one of the first few groups out.

They are suppose to do 36 today and 18 tomorrow so it's an official tournament

Originally Posted by KiawahConnor

Besides the wind moving the ball on the green, why can't they just play and shoot high scores? It would be refreshing to see Ian poulter shoot 126.

Well. I think we know why they can't play with the ball moving on the greens.  Poulter, even though he's a douche, wouldn't shoot 126 even if he just played with his putter lol

[phan52]

Originally Posted by newtogolf

How's he going to hurt himself if the ball falls off?  Poulter earned a lot of respect from me during the Ryder Cup but he's losing it here with his whining and complaining.  He should just withdraw if he doesn't want to play.

Johnny Miller: "Poulter set back the game 20 years with that."

[WWBDD]

Originally Posted by phan52

Johnny Miller: "Poulter set back the game 20 years with that."

Um, yeah ... how will the game ever possibly recover?