2013 Masters Discussion Thread, Update with Tiger's Illegal Drop (Post #343)

[jamo]

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[Stretch]

I think it would be fair to propose that the committee, in their initial review, was probably not exactly exerting itself to find a reason disqualify the #1 player in the world and overwhelming favorite to win their tournament.

As Fourputt so eloquently puts it, if only Tiger had "kept his mouth shut" the whole thing could have been quietly swept under the rug in Butler Cabin where it was supposed to end up.

[iacas]

Since it wasn't clear before, we are no longer discussing the Tiger drop. Discuss it and your posts may vanish into the ether, regardless of what you think about it.

It's Sunday, not Friday or early Saturday. Move on.

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[Pablo68]

Fantastic start to Sunday; going to be a wild finish. I'm stoked.

How about Langer..................great start but coming back to Earth now.

[clarkeycats]

Bubba with a 10 on the par 3, now +8. Whoops.

[Mulligan Jeff]

Snedeker, Cabrera, Day, Scott, Westwood - would like to see any one of them put on the Green Jacket!

[Mr. Desmond]

Originally Posted by Mulligan Jeff

Snedeker, Cabrera, Day, Scott, Westwood - would like to see any one of them put on the Green Jacket!

Looks as if it won't be Tiger... started slowly and went downhill from there. Putting is horrid ...  for him, so far. He just doesn't do well from behind.

[Pablo68]

Don't get me wrong; I'd love to be there right now but imagine spending thousands for those tickets and getting rained on with the temps in the low 60s.

I saw a pair of tickets for all 4 rounds go on Ebay for $16,000+. At least there was free shipping on them though.

[9424tm]

I'm surprised Taylormade did not send out an R1 or at least an R11s umbrella to Jason Day. He's going old school (for Taylormade) with the R9 umbrella. Of course as often as TM pumps out equipment, that would be difficult.

[colin007]

Bubba with a 10 on the par 3, now +8. Whoops.

Anyone have the details on this?

[iacas]

Anyone have the details on this?

3 wet balls.

[onephenom]

Originally Posted by iacas

3 wet balls.

didn't na do the same thing earlier?

[MyrtleBeachGolf]

didn't na do the same thing earlier?

Yes. Exactly the same thing.

[blondzebra]

Announcers mis spoke themselves when they were saying Cabrerra needed to be cautious when making his practice swing on ten. They said it would be a penalty if he had knocked off a leaf. It is not a penalty if there are still so many leaves or branches remaining that the area of intended swing has not been materially affected. Now all the weekend warriors will be calling penalties on there buddies when they see them knock a leaf off a tree.

[mvmac]

[iacas]

Originally Posted by blondzebra

Announcers mis spoke themselves when they were saying Cabrerra needed to be cautious when making his practice swing on ten. They said it would be a penalty if he had knocked off a leaf. It is not a penalty if there are still so many leaves or branches remaining that the area of intended swing has not been materially affected. Now all the weekend warriors will be calling penalties on there buddies when they see them knock a leaf off a tree.

It's helpful if you quote the actual Rules or Decisions.

It used to be 13-2/22, but now it is included in 13-2/0.5.

Q. Rule 13-2 prohibits a player from improving certain areas. What does "improve" mean?

A. In the context of Rule 13-2 , "improve" means to change for the better so that the player gains a potential advantage with respect to the position or lie of his ball, the area of his intended stance or swing, his line of play or a reasonable extension of that line beyond the hole, or the area in which he is to drop or place a ball. Therefore, merely changing an area protected by Rule 13-2 will not be a breach of Rule 13-2 unless it creates such a potential advantage for the player in his play.

Examples of changes that are unlikely to create such a potential advantage are if a player:

• repairs a small pitch-mark on his line of play five yards in front of his ball prior to making a 150-yard approach shot from through the green;
• accidentally knocks down several leaves from a tree in his area of intended swing with a practice swing, but there are still so many leaves or branches remaining that the area of intended swing has not been materially affected; or
• whose ball lies in thick rough 180 yards from the green, walks forward and pulls strands of grass on his line of play and tosses them in the air to determine the direction of the wind.

Examples of changes that are likely to create such a potential advantage are if a player:

• repairs a pitch-mark through the green five yards in front of his ball and on his line of play prior to making a stroke from off the putting green that might be affected by the pitch-mark (e.g., a putt or a low-running shot);
• accidentally knocks down a single leaf from a tree in his area of intended swing with a practice swing, but, as this was one of very few leaves that might either interfere with his swing or fall and thereby distract him, the area of intended swing has been materially affected; or
• pulls strands of grass from rough a few inches behind his ball to test the wind, but thereby reduces a potential distraction for the player, or resistance to his club, in the area of his intended swing.

The determination as to whether a player has gained a potential advantage from his actions is made by reference to the situation immediately prior to his stroke. If there is a reasonable possibility that the player's action has created a potential advantage, the player is in breach of Rule 13-2 . (New)

[Pablo68]

I can't believe Angel C. went for it on the 13th. I still think he may win but that was a brain-fart and a half.

[iacas]

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