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I got an email today with a link to an instructional video. ([URL=http://usgolftv.com/classroom-shot-pattern/]Here[/URL].) As I was watching it I could see he was teaching things right out of LSW, and he said he would mention a good book at the end. Cool, I thought, that LSW will get a little shout-out. Unfortunately, he didn't mention LSW--he credited Broadie. :mad: I feel a little miffed that Erik and Dave didn't get the recognition they deserve.

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I got an email today with a link to an instructional video. (Here.) As I was watching it I could see he was teaching things right out of LSW, and he said he would mention a good book at the end. Cool, I thought, that LSW will get a little shout-out. Unfortunately, he didn't mention LSW--he credited Broadie.

I feel a little miffed that Erik and Dave didn't get the recognition they deserve.

Yeah that diagram he drew looked pretty familiar.

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I feel a little miffed that Erik and Dave didn't get the recognition they deserve.

I'm with you on this. I couldn't even get through his video.

Jon

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I got an email today with a link to an instructional video. (Here.) As I was watching it I could see he was teaching things right out of LSW, and he said he would mention a good book at the end. Cool, I thought, that LSW will get a little shout-out. Unfortunately, he didn't mention LSW--he credited Broadie.


Hmmmm. I'm not even sure Broadie's book even covers this stuff much at all.

I feel a little miffed that Erik and Dave didn't get the recognition they deserve.

You could email the guy. Or tweet at him.

Be nice.

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Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • Author, Lowest Score Wins
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Hmmmm. I'm not even sure Broadie's book even covers this stuff much at all. You could email the guy. Or tweet at him. Be nice.

Oh, please tell me this happened.

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Missouri Swede Great Member

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Be nice.


Be nice? Moi? O:)

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What's in the :ogio: Silencer bag (on the :clicgear: cart)
Driver: :callaway: Razr Fit 10.5°  
5 Wood: :tmade: Burner  
Hybrid: :cobra: Baffler DWS 20°
Irons: :ping: G400 
Wedge: :ping: Glide 2.0 54° ES grind 
Putter: :heavyputter:  midweight CX2
:aimpoint:,  :bushnell: Tour V4

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Hmmmm. I'm not even sure Broadie's book even covers this stuff much at all.

I agree - it doesn't.

Reading the two (LSW & Every Shot Counts) back-to-back, the analogy that came to mind was that of LSW as the "Physics" textbook, and ESC as the "Calculus" textbook.

In this analogy, playing better golf is a physics problem.

Knowing how to do calculus (modern golf stats) is nice, and gives you an understanding of why physics (golf) works the way it does, but you can't actually solve physics (golf) problems without the physics (LSW) book.

Conversely, though, even without an underlying understanding of calculus, you can still solve physics problems, since there are computers to do the number-crunching for you.  (ie, Game Golf)

TL;DR - You can play better golf by only reading LSW.  You can understand golf stats really well by only reading Every Shot Counts.  I don't think anyone on this site thinks to themselves that "my goal for this year is to understand golf stats better".

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I don't think anyone on this site thinks to themselves that "my goal for this year is to understand golf stats better".

Right, certainly haven't heard that one.

Good post.

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Hmmmm. I'm not even sure Broadie's book even covers this stuff much at all.

You could email the guy. Or tweet at him.

Be nice.

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Please let us know if you get a response. :)

I emailed him and he replied:

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Good to hear from you. A few months after shooting that video I did come across the book Lowest Score Wins.  This is an excellent book and one that I have recommended to many people.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and respond.
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Driver: :callaway: Razr Fit 10.5°  
5 Wood: :tmade: Burner  
Hybrid: :cobra: Baffler DWS 20°
Irons: :ping: G400 
Wedge: :ping: Glide 2.0 54° ES grind 
Putter: :heavyputter:  midweight CX2
:aimpoint:,  :bushnell: Tour V4

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I emailed him and he replied:

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Anyway, bigger things to worry about than this type of stuff.

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Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

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I am making tiny inroads with Speed Kills section.  This is hard stuff for me to adjust my swing.   I will take it slowly while I am working on other ball striking stuff.

Two weeks ago, I mapped out shot zones for my wedges.  Today, I mapped out 8i.   40% went short and right.  Another 40% went shorter and more to right, outside of an imaginary green at range.  30% went left and hole high.  It gives me a better idea of what to do with 9i to 7i approach shots.

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Binh Nguyen Well Established Member

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Got my copy last Wednesday. But I was on a business trip so I can only Read it through one time. Will read it more carefully this weekend.
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Has anyone else's cover gotten sticky? I tried washing it with Fantastic but its still sticky. Its both the front and back covers BTW. Is there some kind of varnish or something on the paper that might cause this?

I swear I haven't spilled anything on it that would cause this...


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Has anyone else's cover gotten sticky? I tried washing it with Fantastic but its still sticky. Its both the front and back covers BTW. Is there some kind of varnish or something on the paper that might cause this? I swear I haven't spilled anything on it that would cause this...

Criminey....I love the book...but don't have THAT much excitement over it......

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davidandrew Newbie

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Hello All

I have been a golf pro for 23 years and struggled the last 6 years with scoring. I have had lots of lessons from top teaches in the long and short game and I strike the ball much better much straighter but my scores have got worse. I can only presume the problem is I ve spend a long time working on my swing that I've not concentrated on scoring,

I am looking for a book which is about lowering your scores. I like the idea of a book which will give me lots of tests in practice to show me if im improving.Simular to dave pelzs scoring system.

any help much apreciated


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