The "Ball Under a Foot of Water" Challenge

[Ernest Jones]

Originally Posted by jusanothajoe

physics says you're lying, because it didn't happen.

The above and a few more could have been taken the wrong way. Don't think it was intended to be harsh at all, he even said it's not us. Also don't think anyone else in this thread meant any harm.

Maybe this has nothing to do with why he hasn't been around, he may be spending all his free time hackin a golf club in the lake  Gave my two cents that's all

Ok, I'll concede that I can see how that one could be misconstrued as a personal attack, but that's just what it would be - misconstrued.

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No-one is saying you have to be able to do it on demand or you are a liar.

QFT.

[newtogolf]

Maybe some took it a bit further than it needed to, but he was given numerous outs and stood by his story.  I don't know how you compare a hole in one to the topic of this thread.  If someone tells you they can fly or do something else that is not physically possible (like hitting a golf ball out of a foot of water) you'd call them out on it.

I believe @MS256 of the water, I don't believe the water was a foot deep or that it was a legal stroke (scoop).   I also don't believe he's lying, I just think he's remembering the incident the way fishermen remember the size of the fish that got away.

[Lihu]

Maybe some took it a bit further than it needed to, but he was given numerous outs and stood by his story.  I don't know how you compare a hole in one to the topic of this thread.  If someone tells you they can fly or do something else that is not physically possible (like hitting a golf ball out of a foot of water) you'd call them out on it.

I believe @MS256 hit a ball out of the water, I don't believe the water was a foot deep or that it was a legal stroke (scoop).   I also don't believe he's lying, I just think he's remembering the incident the way fishermen remember the size of the fish that got away.

Yeah, also plausible, but I don't recall him stating any other "fish stories" in the past.

[Lihu]

Cool. I wouldn't have believed it could have been done. I bet that foam pad under the pool helped.

[Ernest Jones]

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Originally Posted by Golfingdad

Cool. I wouldn't have believed it could have been done. I bet that foam pad under the pool helped.

Ironically, I believe at least part of the reason that dude didn't die is also the reason you can't hit a golf ball out of a foot of water.

[Golfingdad]

Ironically, I believe at least part of the reason that dude didn't die is also the reason you can't hit a golf ball out of a foot of water.

Ironically??

That's precisely why I posted it.

[Lihu]

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Originally Posted by Lihu

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Originally Posted by Golfingdad

Cool. I wouldn't have believed it could have been done. I bet that foam pad under the pool helped.

Ironically, I believe at least part of the reason that dude didn't die is also the reason you can't hit a golf ball out of a foot of water.

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Originally Posted by Ernest Jones

Ironically, I believe at least part of the reason that dude didn't die is also the reason you can't hit a golf ball out of a foot of water.

Ironically??

That's precisely why I posted it.

Like I mentioned earlier, you would need a swing that could carry a drive 800 yards or more to barely be able to do it. Enough energy does win in the end, but I'd like to see the shaft and mechanism that doesn't snap to do it.

[Fourputt]

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Originally Posted by Lihu

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Originally Posted by Golfingdad

Cool. I wouldn't have believed it could have been done. I bet that foam pad under the pool helped.

Ironically, I believe at least part of the reason that dude didn't die is also the reason you can't hit a golf ball out of a foot of water.

Yup.  It's all about the way water resists movement.  As a scuba diver, I've seem plenty of it first hand.  We teach beginning divers to think before they move, then to move slowly.  Slow, deliberate movements have very little resistance, but the faster you try to move, the more resistance is felt.  I can hold my hand out to my side and move it slowly and my body will remain relatively motionless, but if I move my hand quickly, my hand will move only a little and my body would rotate instead.  A diver can only comfortably swim against about a 1 knot current, and even that will tire you out quickly.  Anything faster and the water resistance will be nearly impossible to overcome.

By the same principle, the harder you try to hit a golf ball in the water, the more the water will resist the attempt.

[saevel25]

Yup.  It's all about the way water resists movement.  As a scuba diver, I've seem plenty of it first hand.  We teach beginning divers to think before they move, then to move slowly.  Slow, deliberate movements have very little resistance, but the faster you try to move, the more resistance is felt.  I can hold my hand out to my side and move it slowly and my body will remain relatively motionless, but if I move my hand quickly, my hand will move only a little and my body would rotate instead.  A diver can only comfortably swim against about a 1 knot current, and even that will tire you out quickly.  Anything faster and the water resistance will be nearly impossible to overcome.

By the same principle, the harder you try to hit a golf ball in the water, the more the water will resist the attempt.

Then you get into the rules of golf about if you are making a stroke or are you scooping the ball

[RandallT]

2:10- Brad Faxon hits out of water (1 inch of water buffers between club and ball). It's not a foot deep. They mention that in thick enough rough, the club will never contact the ball either.

2:50- Brad hits out of popcorn (1/60th density of water). Brad puts it on the studio green.

4:00- Brad hits out of jello.

6:00- Deep spaghetti!

I agree with those above saying this was all good-natured. One of my favorite threads for a while!

[Pretzel]

2:10- Brad Faxon hits out of water (1 inch of water buffers between club and ball). It's not a foot deep. They mention that in thick enough rough, the club will never contact the ball either. 2:50- Brad hits out of popcorn (1/60th density of water). Brad puts it on the studio green.  4:00- Brad hits out of jello.   6:00- Deep spaghetti! I agree with those above saying this was all good-natured. One of my favorite threads for a while!

When I first watched that video I felt bad for Brad and his tan pants. I imagine the spaghetti sauce didn't come out of those easily.

[iacas]

I tend to agree that calling him a liar is a little over the line.

Nobody called him a liar.

When I said "physics says he's lying" I meant "that's not possible." It occurred very early on in the discussion. @MS256 responded by laughing and once again saying something like "I was there" as if we were still wrong.

Like some of mentioned, it is possible to scoop the ball out.

We discussed that already too. It's not a legal stroke.

Simply put, we were a little too hard on @MS256

Nope. We're men. If we can't take a little teasing, well, that's lame.

It's not possible.

[flopster]

So what happened??? Did @MS256 get mad about something said and decided to leave?

[iacas]

So what happened??? Did @MS256 get mad about something said and decided to leave?

Nobody knows.

Obviously everyone here hopes it's more that and not that something went wrong with his family or friends.

[CraiginKSA]

I went to school with a guy who ran track.  I met his mom one day and she insisted that her son ran the mile in 3:35.  i told her you surely mean 4:35 (still fast for high school).  She insisted that no, she was there and 3:35 was his time.  I told her that's not possible because the world record (at the time) was 3:52.  So he just lowered the world record time by 17 seconds and no one knows about it?!?  How come i didn't see this on CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox, ESPN and on the front page of the every newspaper in the world?

As Mark Twain said, "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."

[Valleygolfer]

You guys are big meanies.... :no:

[jusanothajoe]

Nobody called him a liar.

When I said "physics says he's lying" I meant "that's not possible." It occurred very early on in the discussion. @MS256 responded by laughing and once again saying something like "I was there" as if we were still wrong.

We discussed that already too. It's not a legal stroke.

Nope. We're men. If we can't take a little teasing, well, that's lame.

It's not possible.

Sometimes I guess it depends on who is doing the teasing and who is getting teased. Been there done that

As has been said many times, typed statements get taken totally wrong sometimes. Really hope I am wrong and this is not the case here.

[14ledo81]

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Originally Posted by iacas

Nobody called him a liar.

When I said "physics says he's lying" I meant "that's not possible." It occurred very early on in the discussion. @MS256 responded by laughing and once again saying something like "I was there" as if we were still wrong.

We discussed that already too. It's not a legal stroke.

Nope. We're men. If we can't take a little teasing, well, that's lame.

It's not possible.

Sometimes I guess it depends on who is doing the teasing and who is getting teased. Been there done that

As has been said many times, typed statements get taken totally wrong sometimes. Really hope I am wrong and this is not the case here.

I think I know what you are getting at here.  There are certain guys who do not take "ribbing" well.  As such, we (me and my friends) left those guys alone.

FWIW, I never got the idea the @MS256 was one of those guys.

I really hope everything is fine with him and/or his family.