Ian Poulter......Underrated?

[mvmac]

Nah, he's overrated, players with two PGA Tour wins don't have their own clothing companies

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/golf/deemed-overrated-by-anonymous-rivals-ian-poulter-is-an-unsung-workingclass-hero-10239794.html

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But back to Poulter. I would contend that were he to have played golf with his trap shut, he would be among the most admired figures in the game. His Ryder Cup performances alone mark him out as a golfer of some pedigree; 12 wins on the European Tour is not too shabby either.

Only 21 players in the history of European golf have a better ledger than his. At the Masters this year he was 10 under par across the weekend, carding a pair of 67s, the best finish by anyone who made the cut. Rubbish, eh?

As ever with these things, the haters are looking in the wrong direction. Instead of comparing Poulter with McIlroy, Tiger Woods and the uber elite, his detractors should look the other way at all those who have played the game professionally and returned a fraction of Poulter’s bullion.

How many careers began as inauspiciously as his, off a handicap of four while selling Mars bars in a pro shop? And that’s not plus four by the way, the kind of polished accoutrement boasted by the graduates of the American collegiate system. No, that’s a dear, old, single handicap four, the kind you see battling it out for the Sunday medal.

[saevel25]

I think he's correctly rated. I don't think he gets hype by the media. He gets more attention because of his antics but it does seem to be a clear distinction between his golf game versus his social media life.

[kpaulhus]

I don't see as much poulter in ads as I do guys like Zack Johnson, tiger, Phil, speith, Rory, Rickie, Bubba, or even Patrick reed. From a financial perspective, Ian has done pretty damn well every year. Now if you were to only evaluate a player based on his wins and majors then, yes, he does get more hype than deserved. I used to absolutely hate poulter. Then I started following him on Instagram. I cant say he is my favorite player on the tour, but I like him more than others and less than some.

[Mr. Desmond]

He seems like a moody PITA - up and down, and mischievous, irreverent, jerky, outspoken, egotistical, etc.

PGA Tour - 2 wins, 34 Top 10's in 192 Tournaments, hasn't won in 3 years. A few Ryder Cup heroics are where he's made his mark.

Overrated, especially if he does not win soon.

But he and his people produce some quality clothing you can find on sale - good value on sale.

[Shorty]

How many careers began as inauspiciously as his, off a handicap of four while selling Mars bars in a pro shop?

When are people going to stop trotting out this myth? It's not as if a 4 marker became a Ryder Cup hero.

He was forced by his boss to pay a full green fee every time he wanted to play in a competition. His handicap hence stayed at four, because he did not play in competitions.

He was an assistant pro. He wasn't playing PGATour events or European events off 4.

Amazingly, professional golfers aren't born with a plus handicap.

There is a rumour going around that some of the players currently on tour couldn't break 100 at some point.

Let's name a player who WASN'T off a handicap of four at some stage.

FWIW - this "survey" was based on profile v income and responses of fellow pros were clearly motivated by jealousy.

No-one says that Poulter is that great a player anyway. Yes, he is gutsy, yes he is outspoken. Consequently he has a profile and attracts sponsors.

Therefore he is not overrated at all.

Some of the PGATour p[layers are so dim and boring that they don't even realise that sponsors want personalities, not just good players.

[Golfingdad]

I think he's correctly rated. I don't think he gets hype by the media. He gets more attention because of his antics but it does seem to be a clear distinction between his golf game versus his social media life.

Agree with this.  It's not like he gets talked about before the Majors as a contender or anything.  He's just there.  He gets talked about during Ryder Cup time but he's earned that rating as well, because he's come through in the Ryder Cup.

Since the answer was Poulter and Fowler, I think they all read the question as something more like:

Which two players are the most recognizable (i.e. are the flashiest dressers) yet with the least amount of wins?

Doesn't really have anything to do with rating, just familiarity.

[newtogolf]

During regular season he's overrated, during Ryder Cup he's underrated.  I like his team spirit during the Ryder Cup but otherwise he's a bit of a sissy.

[Dave2512]

I think people confuse overrated with overexposed. Ian gets a lot of attention because he is flashy and outspoken. But I don't think he gets any undue recognition for the golf he plays. Quite opposite from what I hear, the media constantly reminds us he hasn't won a stroke play event on US soil evrry time he is in contention.

[CraiginKSA]

He's 30 on the OWGR.  That's earned, not given.  Although back in 2010, he was 10th!

Then there is his Q-score. http://www.qscores.com Which is a measure of a person's marketability and consumer appeal.  You have to pay the Q-score people to get access to that rating.

I assume his Q-score is higher than say Luke Donald (boring), but lower than Rory and Rickie.  Probably lower than Tiger who is slipping right about now.

[boogielicious]

I think he is correctly rated.  You don't see him very often in picked to win Majors or even tournaments. If he was funny or won a lot, then his antics and clothing would not rub people to wrong way. But he comes off as an ornery peacock with his tweet wars and snide comments.

[RussUK]

Ian Poulter.....Legend!

Although im not sure about his taste in car interiors. Hi ferarri F12 has his familiy tartan used for the seats and trim.

mmmm, might have to re-think my vote

[Crim]

Poulter is one of the most overrated "stroke play" competitors out there. The only reason he's given airtime in a stroke play format is because he's polarizing. I personally love to watch him struggle.

He's slowly becoming overrated in match play too. He's still a Ryder Cup legend, but he's 2-7-1 in his last 10 singles matches.

[ScouseJohnny]

Talks too much, especially on the interwebs. His Jack the Lad autobiography got on my nerves, too.

And in comparison with other British golfers of the modern era...well, he's had his squabbles along the way with both Faldo and Montgomerie; hasn't come close to their achievements though.

Of his immediate, English contemporaries, Westwood, Rose and Donald have all arguably achieved more without managing to piss off so many people in the process. Rose also has a US open to his name, which I don't see Poulter ever winning, to be honest.

Silly trousers, too.

[Golfingdad]

Poulter is one of the most overrated "stroke play" competitors out there.

How do you define over-rated?  To me, it means that much more is expected of him than is delivered.  I don't think much of anything is ever expected of Ian Poulter, outside of flashy clothes, scowls, and some good soundbites.

Now, I don't watch much in the way of preview shows, but when I do, I rarely (and by that, I mean never) hear them talking about Ian Poulter is a contender.  For the Players, for example, they talked all week about Jordan and Rory, and a little about Tiger, but Poulter?  I didn't hear it.

[Shorty]

A lot of people are confusing "over-rated" with over exposed.

[oregongolfguy]

A lot of people are confusing "over-rated" with over exposed.

Totally agreeing with this.  I haven't heard or read much about anyone considering Poulter a top 10 golfer or something like that.  He is a good golfer, He doesn't play a huge schedule on the PGA.  He makes the cut the vast majority of the time.  Lots of top 25's.  Does a little better in Europe...Just a solid but not spectacular player....who loves the ryder cup.

[Crim]

A lot of people are confusing "over-rated" with over exposed.

Ok, I'll admit it, I wasn't as much confused as I am simply sick of seeing & hearing him.

[Dave2512]

I think he is correctly rated.  You don't see him very often in picked to win Majors or even tournaments. If he was funny or won a lot, then his antics and clothing would not rub people to wrong way. But he comes off as an ornery peacock with his tweet wars and snide comments.

His clothes are the bees knees. I bought a bunch from the IJP outlet on eBay and all of it the best golf clothes I've ever seen, real high quality stuff.