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Golfingdad Incredible Member

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I don't know that too many people "care so much about it".....it's simply a discussion.

I do notice that in nearly 300 posts, only 2 people have commented more than you though....


Quantity of posts is one thing, but my position is another, and my position is "who cares?" ;)

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Sante TwoGloves Dedicated Member

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Yeah but there is a big difference between "donating" balls and taking balls from a range.

That's where I disagree. Depends on the range in every case. I think Why people care about this topic is that golfers are drilled into their heads that if you follow the rules you will get better. Everyone wants to follow the rules but don't know them so here it is: Give or take, ask first.

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This is a big part of my argument as well. I go to the range 2 or 3 times per week and hit a small bucket, which is about 40 balls, I believe. And I've been doing this for probably about three years now.

In the 20,000 balls I've hit, I'm not at all being hyperbolic or exaggerating when I say that I may have noticed one or two "pearls" in the bunch. It's such a non issue I can't believe that people care so much about it.

I agree it's basically a non-issue, heck I have trouble getting rid of old balls ;-)

Regardless of content, any "right vs wrong" discussion is going to create some discussion. Then there are also people that like to argue for the sake of arguing (which I don't understand at all).

That's where I disagree. Depends on the range in every case. I think Why people care about this topic is that golfers are drilled into their heads that if you follow the rules you will get better. Everyone wants to follow the rules but don't know them so here it is:

Give or take, ask first.

People disagree on this topic because they think taking balls from a range is wrong and others are fine with it. People that are stealing don't want to be told their stealing, etc.

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Same with the givers without the ranges permission. They are also stealing.
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Same with the givers without the ranges permission. They are also stealing.

Not stealing, but potentially other things that could be worse. I just noticed a bunch of signs posted stating that the golfer is responsible for any damage caused by errant golf balls even on the range. It used to be covered by insurance, I guess no longer so. . .

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[CENTER][/CENTER]Do you mind if I hit some of my own balls here at your range? Do you mind if I take any non range ball that fancies me? It's so simple. Why are people afraid to ask? They don't want to know the answer. And you know I got all the Answers....5-sw :)
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Same with the givers without the ranges permission. They are also stealing.

LOL

You're the only one bringing this topic up.

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Same with the givers without the ranges permission. They are also stealing.


If that is stealing, that is stealing for which the range will thank them.

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God knows I don't need to get involved in another thread like this, but I will try to at least clear one thing up: An abandoned ball that the course finds is technically and legally the course's ball now.
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I'll just take the non-range balls that I find in the bucket and hit them over the fence, then go pick them up and take them home. There, all my bases covered.

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God knows I don't need to get involved in another thread like this, but I will try to at least clear one thing up:

An abandoned ball that the course finds is technically and legally the course's ball now.


Well, the two attorneys agree.

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Well, the two attorneys agree.

I don't disagree. Taking a ball lost on the range is technically stealing. Fine. The difference of opinion lies with the key words. I submit that it is "technically" whereas many are giving the impression that it's "stealing." If my dog poops in your flowerbeds and I take a few wood chips along with his poop when I pick it up, that's "technically" stealing as well, no?

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Same with the givers without the ranges permission. They are also stealing.


uh no ... I just cant buy into that line of reasoning.   Makes no sense at all to me.    Please explain how adding a few worn out, non-course worthy balls (assuming they are not damaged & would not foul up ball retriever equipment, but would surely play better than a limited flight range ball) to a range's total ball count is hurting a range and could be in any reasonable way shape or form be considered stealing - really, you're so far over the top with that comment I really can't believe anybody said that.

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If that is stealing, that is stealing for which the range will thank them.

Not necessarily especially if the range in question prefers not to have non range balls mixed in with their supply for the sake of their employees, their loyal customers, and most importantly their overhead and their bottom line.

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I don't disagree. Taking a ball lost on the range is technically stealing. Fine. The difference of opinion lies with the key words. I submit that it is "technically" whereas many are giving the impression that it's "stealing."

If my dog poops in your flowerbeds and I take a few wood chips along with his poop when I pick it up, that's "technically" stealing as well, no?


I think it depends on the local rules, meaning if the club doesn't mind ... but it's nice to ask because one doesn't know if they actually paid someone to collect the lost balls. I'd say if you take one, replace it.

The club where I work has problems with people taking ball bags (nylon) and balls, so I think it's an issue.

As to your wood chips, I think that you made a best efforts not to take more chips than necessary, so I think most owners would excuse a few missing chips for a big poop.

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Duff McGee Great Member

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Notice I said "technically" (or at least I meant to). There are a lot of things that are technically illegal that many of us do every day. But property law is pretty clear on ownership.
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[quote name="Mr. Desmond" url="/t/84262/taking-good-balls-from-range-buckets/270#post_1196471"] If that is stealing, that is stealing for which the range will thank them.

Not necessarily especially if the range in question prefers not to have non range balls mixed in with their supply for the sake of their employees, their loyal customers, and most importantly their overhead and their bottom line.[/quote] Here's a fun game. See how many of these your posts have hit on. [CONTENTEMBED=/t/78946/logical-fallacies-poster layout=inline]​[/CONTENTEMBED]:-O

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