Steph Curry

[Jakester23]

8 hours ago, phan52 said:

The fact that he can handle and pass so well besides the out-of-this-world shooting ability makes him a special player. Never saw anybody with his combination of the quick trigger and the accuracy. Too early yet but, if he keeps it up, he's one of the top 5 ever. Unstoppable.

I think we are a long long way from top 5 ever. Right now he is a beast but a case could be made that LBJ is just as good and he's much older. Who's your top 5 now?

[jbishop15]

On April 13, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Jakester23 said:

I think we are a long long way from top 5 ever. Right now he is a beast but a case could be made that LBJ is just as good and he's much older. Who's your top 5 now?

LBJ is the most dominant two-way player in the league when he's giving max effort. Take his 2008-2014 stretch, which was probably the most dominant offensive/defensive stretch since Jordan, maybe ever. LBJ has one peer, and that is Jordan. 

Curry is going to be a top ten player, and has the offensive game and intelligence to get there. But he's too small to play anywhere near the level of defense he'd need to be the best player of all time. He's already a good team defender, and an adequate on-ball defender, but he's already 28; he ain't gonna get much better than this. 

Without a doubt, however, he's the best shooter of all time. Second place is Klay Thompson, who is still miles away from Curry. 

[Jakester23]

6 hours ago, jbishop15 said:

LBJ is the most dominant two-way player in the league when he's giving max effort. Take his 2008-2014 stretch, which was probably the most dominant offensive/defensive stretch since Jordan, maybe ever. LBJ has one peer, and that is Jordan. 

Curry is going to be a top ten player, and has the offensive game and intelligence to get there. But he's too small to play anywhere near the level of defense he'd need to be the best player of all time. He's already a good team defender, and an adequate on-ball defender, but he's already 28; he ain't gonna get much better than this. 

Without a doubt, however, he's the best shooter of all time. Second place is Klay Thompson, who is still miles away from Curry. 

I'd put Ray Allen number 2 but a debate could be made for Clay. 

[jamo]

5 minutes ago, Jakester23 said:

I'd put Ray Allen number 2 but a debate could be made for Clay. 

I also think there's an argument to be made that players like Ray Allen and Reggie Miller, if you could take them in their primes and plop them into today's game, would be at least as good as Klay. The emphasis on 3-point shooting has exploded, even just in the last few years since those two retired. 

[Jakester23]

23 minutes ago, jamo said:

I also think there's an argument to be made that players like Ray Allen and Reggie Miller, if you could take them in their primes and plop them into today's game, would be at least as good as Klay. The emphasis on 3-point shooting has exploded, even just in the last few years since those two retired. 

Completely agree Ray also did it over a much much longer period of time than the splash brothers.

[jbishop15]

37 minutes ago, jamo said:

I also think there's an argument to be made that players like Ray Allen and Reggie Miller, if you could take them in their primes and plop them into today's game, would be at least as good as Klay. The emphasis on 3-point shooting has exploded, even just in the last few years since those two retired. 

 

13 minutes ago, Jakester23 said:

Completely agree Ray also did it over a much much longer period of time than the splash brothers.

Totally fair. My big thing is that Klay Thompson has had a much higher workload in terms of three point shooting than Ray Allen or Reggie Miller every did

[markie]

Update about Steph:
He'll be out for 2 weeks due to the sprained knee, he will miss the entire round 1 and probably the entire round 2 as well (if warriors past both rounds)

[flopster]

The other night was absolutely insane what Curry did in that OT, 17 points by himself to blow out Portland after 2 weeks off?!? Unbelievable.

[14ledo81]

First unanimous MVP in the NBA.

[nevets88]

HOLY SH*T. Draining it from a couple of steps in front of the midcourt line. 

 

[saevel25]

Apparently that ref there is blind :p. 

 

[boogielicious]

1 hour ago, saevel25 said:

Apparently that ref there is blind :p. 

 

They get nine steps in the NBA, right?

[14ledo81]

2 hours ago, boogielicious said:

They get nine steps in the NBA, right?

No.  I think its 7.

Pretty sure that is why @saevel25 was mentioning that the ref missed it..

[dchoye]

Watching Steph make clutch 3s from mid court routinely must be like watching Spieth putt those 15-20 footers knowly there always a chance goes in no matter how tough the green is

[phan52]

On ‎4‎/‎12‎/‎2016 at 10:08 PM, Jakester23 said:

I think we are a long long way from top 5 ever. Right now he is a beast but a case could be made that LBJ is just as good and he's much older. Who's your top 5 now?

I did make the caveat that Steph has to keep it up a lot longer to reach that pinnacle. My top 5 right now would be Jordan, Russell, Magic, Kobe and Bird. LeBron is close. He could convince me in the next couple of weeks.

Edited May 31, 2016 by phan52

[nevets88]

New Yorker on Curry/Warriors:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/sporting-scene/steph-curry-and-the-warriors-astonishing-season

[saevel25]

Steph and the Warriors will have to contend with a fully loaded Cleveland team this time around compared to last year. 

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lebron-and-the-rest-of-the-cavs-are-better-this-year/

Looking at this chart. Lebron almost took the Warriors to a game 7 with a league average supporting talent. 

It should be a great series. I am glad to see a rematch in this years NBA finals.

On an off-topic side note. How fricken stacked was that 96' Bull's team! 

[nevets88]

14 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

Steph and the Warriors will have to contend with a fully loaded Cleveland team this time around compared to last year. 

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/lebron-and-the-rest-of-the-cavs-are-better-this-year/

Looking at this chart. Lebron almost took the Warriors to a game 7 with a league average supporting talent. 

It should be a great series. I am glad to see a rematch in this years NBA finals.

On an off-topic side note. How fricken stacked was that 96' Bull's team! 

I remember the '96 Bulls, it was Jordan and Pippen as Batman and Robin. Rodman for D and rebounds, Kerr was a good PG and 3 point shooter. The center position was okay, Cartwright and Longley. I forget who came off the bench, Caffey? Every other night it was what would Jordan do next. I haven't kept up with the NBA as much but Curry is a stupid crazy good shooter I've never seen the likes of before.  Did not know he did the thing with the warmup routine shooting from almost the tunnel.