Bryson DeChambeau is now a professional...

[Abu3baid]

3 hours ago, skydog said:

He's definitely arrogant, but he's somehow arrogant in a genuine, sincere way that doesn't bother me...at least at this point. I may feel differently after listening to him for a year or two.

Arrogant in a genuine, sincere way?  What does that mean?  

[Golfingdad]

Like a said before, I'd prefer a regular baseball hat, however that said, this is a sharp look:

 

[MacDutch]

Nice pic from Hatty images.

[boogielicious]

7 hours ago, MasonAsher2014 said:

Touching on his arrogance, I do not like him at all. I met him at the AM last year and you could tell with how he spoke to people he thought he was better than everyone and after he won acted like he had no idea he could do it. His swing coach was the worst, he was talking him up to me like he was the next coming and it was really hard to listen to, I even tried to leave and he kept on going. Now, I'm sure he's a good kid but my encounter just rubbed me the wrong way and I get a sense of self-entitlement and the perception that he's better than everyone else. 

Thanks for sharing your first hand experience. I think the Tour will help humble him. It does this to everyone.

[newtogolf]

Patrick Reed was also arrogant and while he's not dominating the Tour he's doing very well for himself.  It's a fine line between confidence and arrogance.  

Reed has / had a chip on his shoulder and was arrogant in almost defiant manner which is a different feel than the way Bryson handles himself.  Bryson acts in a manner that he's always been great and we are just late to the Bryson party.   

[skydog]

8 hours ago, Abu3baid said:

Arrogant in a genuine, sincere way?  What does that mean?  

That's why I used the word somehow... I acknowledged that it doesn't make a lot of sense but that's how it comes across to me.

9 hours ago, newtogolf said:

I don't know his family background but watching him, his demeanor and the way that he conducts himself would indicates he comes from some wealth and has lived a fairly entitled life.  He has a very high opinion of himself (which could be rightly earned) but he strikes me as a guy who grew up in country clubs, hanging around wealthy and powerful people so he views the rest of the pro's as peers and isn't going to be falsely humble to win over a few fans, it's just not in his DNA.  

I would have said I agreed with this assessment but in one of the segments I listened to on him during the Masters week, they said the exact opposite. They said he didn't grow up with much...kind of insinuated that he was raised by a single mother but they didn't go into much detail.

Edited April 15, 2016 by skydog

[newtogolf]

6 minutes ago, skydog said:

That's why I used the word somehow... I acknowledged that it doesn't make a lot of sense but that's how it comes across to me.

I would have said I agreed with this assessment but in one of the segments I listened to on him during the Masters week, they said the exact opposite. They said he didn't grow up with much...kind of insinuated that he was raised by a single mother but they didn't go into much detail.

I know he has a father because their were articles about his dad needing kidney replacement.  

[skydog]

8 minutes ago, newtogolf said:

I know he has a father because their were articles about his dad needing kidney replacement.  

True, I remember hearing that too.

Either way, the segment made sure to mention that he didn't come from money by any means.

[krupa]

6 minutes ago, newtogolf said:

I know he has a father because their were articles about his dad needing kidney replacement.  

I have a father but was raised by a single mother.  It happens.

I wonder if Bryson is a like Bryce Harper, the Washington Nationals phenom.  When Harper made it to the big leagues, he was very arrogant.  (He may still be, I've been drifting away from baseball.)  Shane Victorino (then with the Phillies) said something like, "of course he's going to be arrogant, he spent his entire life being told that he was the best and treated differently because of it."  

In any event, I'm just adding Bryson to the list of interviews I won't watch/read.

[newtogolf]

2 minutes ago, krupa said:

I have a father but was raised by a single mother.  It happens.

I wonder if Bryson is a like Bryce Harper, the Washington Nationals phenom.  When Harper made it to the big leagues, he was very arrogant.  (He may still be, I've been drifting away from baseball.)  Shane Victorino (then with the Phillies) said something like, "of course he's going to be arrogant, he spent his entire life being told that he was the best and treated differently because of it."  

In any event, I'm just adding Bryson to the list of interviews I won't watch/read.

That's very possible on both counts, whatever Brysons situation is, he has a ultra high opinion of himself.

I remember when Bryce Harper was coming up and all the hype surrounding him until he started to do interviews and his arrogance made people hate him.  

[RFKFREAK]

My guess is that as someone who is majoring in physics, a subject matter that athletes don't usually major in when they are in college, he probably is a pretty smart guy so I could see some of his arrogance stemming from that.  If he did indeed grow up with the country club sect and in a family of wealth, then I wouldn't be surprised if he were arrogant.  About the only thing that struck me as different, besides the length of his clubs, was his name as I don't believe I've ever heard the name before and most certainly had never seen a name spelled that way.

For the moment, though, I don't have much an opinion of him.  

[skydog]

25 minutes ago, RFKFREAK said:

 If he did indeed grow up with the country club sect and in a family of wealth, then I wouldn't be surprised if he were arrogant.

Again, he did not.

You don't have to grow up wealthy to be arrogant. Look at the vast majority of pro athletes if you want proof of that. On the flip side, some of the most modest and humble folks I know are those that grew up the wealthiest.

Edited April 15, 2016 by skydog

[iacas]

Pretty sure his instructor is the same one who ripped off and was later successfully sued by Mark Sweeney and AimPoint.

So, while I have little problem with Bryson, and wish him the best, I do not like the character of those with whom he associates quite closely.

[RFKFREAK]

2 hours ago, skydog said:

Again, he did not.

 

No offense to you, but one segment from an outlet you didn't source doesn't necessarily mean that it's an accurate representation.  The media, like many others, have an agenda so I question the how and why of those who report things.

 

2 hours ago, skydog said:

You don't have to grow up wealthy to be arrogant. Look at the vast majority of pro athletes if you want proof of that. On the flip side, some of the most modest and humble folks I know are those that grew up the wealthiest.

 

Of course not.  But in the course of my life, I've found that a greater percentage of arrogant people are people that come from or have attained a certain level of wealth, hence my statement. 

[skydog]

21 minutes ago, RFKFREAK said:

No offense to you, but one segment from an outlet you didn't source doesn't necessarily mean that it's an accurate representation.  The media, like many others, have an agenda so I question the how and why of those who report things

I doubt almost everything that comes out of a media source's mouth but I have no reason to think they would run a segment on his modest background if in fact he grew up with a silver spoon. Fine, you know plenty of plenty of arrogant people that grew up wealthy. Bryson did not, end of story.

21 minutes ago, RFKFREAK said:

 But in the course of my life, I've found that a greater percentage of arrogant people are people that come from or have attained a certain level of wealth, hence my statement. 

Again, in my life, I have experienced almost the exact opposite.

I wasn't trying to swerve this off topic or get into a socioeconomic discussion here, I simply wanted to correct the presumption that was made on here that he must have come from money. If for some reason you don't want to accept that, then I don't know what to tell you.

Edited April 15, 2016 by skydog

[Golfingdad]

4 hours ago, newtogolf said:

I know he has a father because their were articles about his dad needing kidney replacement.  

Yeah, I read about this because I know of these people.  His dad's kidney donor was the former Fresno State golf coach, Mike Watney.  (Nick's uncle)

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I started learning how to play well after a PE class I took at Fresno State where we hit with 7 irons all the time with those contoured grips.  My grip was horrendous prior to that.  Mike Watney was one of the teachers of those PE classes.  Unfortunately, I never got any instruction from him - probably because he was too busy with the real golfers. ;)

 

3 hours ago, RFKFREAK said:

If he did indeed grow up with the country club sect and in a family of wealth, then I wouldn't be surprised if he were arrogant.

If you are basing this off of my comment above, I should clarify that Fresno is a very blue-collar town and the club I was talking about that my dad and brother belong to is really, really blue collar.  It's nothing like a stereotypical club, and its not at all littered with rich folk.

Also, the place Bryson's coach works at is a public course.

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Like @newtogolf said above, there is a really fine line between confidence and arrogance.  I find it very easy to imagine that somebody with Bryson's talents (or for that matter, anybody who makes the PGA Tour or web.com tour) and at Bryson's age would walk that line.  After all, up to this point, he HAS been the best at all of his recent levels of competition.  Hard not to be a little confident/cocky when you beat everybody, I imagine.

[krupa]

The hat made its first professional cut!

[RFKFREAK]

1 hour ago, skydog said:

I doubt almost everything that comes out of a media source's mouth but I have no reason to think they would run a segment on his modest background if in fact he grew up with a silver spoon. Fine, you know plenty of plenty of arrogant people that grew up wealthy. Bryson did not, end of story.

Again, in my life, I have experienced almost the exact opposite.

I wasn't trying to swerve this off topic or get into a socioeconomic discussion here, I simply wanted to correct the presumption that was made on here that he must have come from money. If for some reason you don't want to accept that, then I don't know what to tell you.

My comment wasn't one in that I questioning you but, with all due respect, you can say, "Bryson did not, end of story," but if it's based on only one unsourced outlet, for me, it's not end of story.

Different life experiences, @skydog.  That's pretty much all I can attribute how you view your interactions with arrogant people have been and how I view mine.

1 hour ago, Golfingdad said:

 

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I started learning how to play well after a PE class I took at Fresno State where we hit with 7 irons all the time with those contoured grips.  My grip was horrendous prior to that.  Mike Watney was one of the teachers of those PE classes.  Unfortunately, I never got any instruction from him - probably because he was too busy with the real golfers. ;)

 

If you are basing this off of my comment above, I should clarify that Fresno is a very blue-collar town and the club I was talking about that my dad and brother belong to is really, really blue collar.  It's nothing like a stereotypical club, and its not at all littered with rich folk.

Also, the place Bryson's coach works at is a public course.

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Not at all.