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Hmmm.

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She sets up almost at impact position, doesn't appear her hips slide much, if at all, kind of how Player and Jack were.  

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Interesting. Looks like she has a super wide stance and very little hip rotation.

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15 minutes ago, newtogolf said:

She sets up almost at impact position, doesn't appear her hips slide much, if at all, kind of how Player and Jack were.  

Which part?

Nicklaus and Player both moved their hips forward a fair amount.

Nicklaus.jpgPlayer.jpg

I'm not loving this:

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I had Golf Channel on last night and saw a video of Jack talking about watching Gary Players swing and how Gary set up at address in his impact position.  Jack said he made a conscious effort to copy that within his own swing.  Jack then went on to demonstrate his swing which appeared to include very little hip slide.  

I'm not sure at which point of their careers this method was adopted (Jack appeared older than the clips you're using), but given Wie has copied Jack's putting method I thought she might be trying to duplicate elements of his swing as well.  

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1 minute ago, shanksalot said:

 I thought her swing was much better ten years ago.

+1  I used to love the look of her swing.

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3 minutes ago, newtogolf said:

I had Golf Channel on last night and saw a video of Jack talking about watching Gary Players swing and how Gary set up at address in his impact position.  Jack said he made a conscious effort to copy that within his own swing.  Jack then went on to demonstrate his swing which appeared to include very little hip slide.

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Iacas,

Is it that you don't like her weight forward at address?   Her swing doesn't look fluid.  

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If you put your pointer (if you are on a PC or Mac) on her left hip at setup, you can see how far her hips slide. 

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24 minutes ago, CarlSpackler said:

If you put your pointer (if you are on a PC or Mac) on her left hip at setup, you can see how far her hips slide. 

Just look at the sequence I posted above.

I don't care a ton about the lack of hip slide. It's "okay."

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So restrictive...why is she limiting her hip rotation so much?

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52 minutes ago, colin007 said:

So restrictive...why is she limiting her hip rotation so much?

She had hip issues in 2015, right? So her thinking must be the little bit of hip rotation she used to allow herself must have been the culprit so she's gone full-bore to eliminate as much hip movement as she can to stop the 'wear and tear' on the moving joint? Meanwhile her lead foot (around which she torques) is barely turned toward the target. Daft, IMO. Might bring better results, but I'd expect extra wear and tear on her core muscles.

Article related to last year's swing change to address the hip issue.

http://www.golfchannel.com/news/randall-mell/wie-battling-injuries-new-swing-she-defends-major-title/

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At 6 feet, with her long arms and legs, Wie was generating a lot of power with a compact swing. She won the U.S. Women’s Open winding powerfully around hips that barely seemed to rotate on the backswing.

“Although in many respects that swing was pretty sound mechanically, it was very short and very tight and very wound up,” Leadbetter said. “It was creating a lot of stress on her joints. We had to make a compromise. She’s gone back to a narrower stance, to really encourage more of a rotation in the swing, which has gotten the swing a little longer.”

 

 

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The Leadbetter quote is illuminating, given what you can see in the OP…

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@iacas can you be more specific about your thoughts on Wie's swing? To my untrained eye, the video above looks like a beautiful swing that I would kill to have. Then again, faults that might be obvious to an instructor aren't readily apparent to people like me.

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From my POV, theres no athleticism and freedom in the movement she is making in that vid. Its too quick and restricted. You might be able to be a range god with a stroke like that, but i dont see how something so robotic translates to the course. But maybe its a drill of some kind she is doing - you never know. 


From my high handicapper eye, fwiw, the two unusual things that I see in that swing is how far back her head moves on the downswing and how little her hips turn on the backswing.

And, I can see what @iacas is pointing out about the hips not sliding much forward on the downswing through follow thru.  I think part of the reason for this is how much tilt she has at address.  She does stand up on that front leg pretty well and gets her weight forward given there is very little to no hip slide.

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