2017 Dubai Desert Classic

[tristanhilton85]

I hope that this is just a minor set back, but this seems to happen way too often. At this point, I'll be pleasantly surprised if he plays again.

[Yukari]

Well, unless it truly is 100% back spasm, I can't see TW coming back to anything near resembling his old self.

I think his career is over.  I've said it before, athletes don't know when they are done.

[David in FL]

Lee Westwood looks like he's been spending a lot of time in the all-you-can-eat cheeseburger buffet line!

[Aflighter]

I wonder if he still gets the seven figure appearance fee just for playing one round? If he did then hes laughing his way to the bank.

[iacas]

3 minutes ago, Aflighter said:

I wonder if he still gets the seven figure appearance fee just for playing one round? If he did then hes laughing his way to the bank.

He did attend a Q&A at the club (or something) at about 3:30 local time in the afternoon, they kept reporting.

[Rainmaker]

5 hours ago, nevets88 said:

 

I just saw that right now on the replay - holy cow . . .a tree blows down on the golf course . . .it's just a small one - let's keep playing!  

[Pendragon]

1 hour ago, Aflighter said:

I wonder if he still gets the seven figure appearance fee just for playing one round? If he did then hes laughing his way to the bank.

If he's hurt his back again, I doubt he'll be doing much laughing on the flight home.

[Buckeyebowman]

16 hours ago, 65ross said:

Not news we need about Tiger, they saying it back problems again, he really only played 3 rounds since his return so not good at all, hoping not career ending thing for him.

Especially for the length of time he took off in order to "fully" recover.

15 hours ago, David in FL said:

He's done.

I'm afraid I agree with you.

14 hours ago, carpediem4300 said:

back spasms, not the nerve issue he felt before, WD as a precaution

Maybe it's not the nerve issue he felt before, but what else causes a muscle to spasm? A nerve issue. Now he has another one!

[iacas]

1 hour ago, Buckeyebowman said:

Maybe it's not the nerve issue he felt before, but what else causes a muscle to spasm? A nerve issue. Now he has another one!

Uhm, no. I'm not a doctor (though I do have a degree in medicinal chemistry), but… no, that's not what generally causes spasms. Nerve issues are nerve issues, and present as such. They don't often present as spasms.

Google says:

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Spasms of skeletal muscles are most common and are often due to overuse, dehydration, and electrolyte abnormalities. The spasm occurs abruptly, is painful, and is usually short-lived. It may be relieved by gently stretching the muscle.

Nothing about "nerve issues."

[Jackfan]

30 minutes ago, iacas said:

Uhm, no. I'm not a doctor (though I do have a degree in medicinal chemistry), but… no, that's not what generally causes spasms. Nerve issues are nerve issues, and present as such. They don't often present as spasms.

Google says:

Nothing about "nerve issues."

I get spasms now and then...a result of not so great posture, which has stretched out my rhomboid muscle (under the shoulder blades).  I will get a spasm if I am not properly warmed up before some sort of exercise, like a push up.  No nerve damage involved.  Usually takes about three days to clear up.  Best course of action is to ice it as soon as I feel it...that limits the damage, and I can get rid of it faster.  After that, massage and heat are how I treat it.  Can't play good golf when one comes on though.  

[Scotsclaff]

This is between Garcia and Stenson.

Poulter and Meesawat have an outside chance unless someone shoots a 62......can't see it on this course though.

Good to see Poulter in the mix again.

[Scotsclaff]

Well done Sergio.Magic putter today.

Henrik 2nd.

[Golfingdad]

3 hours ago, Scotsclaff said:

Well done Sergio.

Awesome.  I love to see him play well. :)

[65ross]

Sergio wire to wire ,great performance, my picks well back.

[Buckeyebowman]

On 2/3/2017 at 10:35 PM, iacas said:

Uhm, no. I'm not a doctor (though I do have a degree in medicinal chemistry), but… no, that's not what generally causes spasms. Nerve issues are nerve issues, and present as such. They don't often present as spasms.

Google says:

Nothing about "nerve issues."

Hmmmm, that's a new one on me! I was taught that muscles respond, or contract, due to stimuli from nerves.

Dehydration is another question, but does anyone seriously believe that Tiger is out there dehydrated?

And, BTW, is there anything you DON'T do?

[boogielicious]

13 hours ago, Buckeyebowman said:

Hmmmm, that's a new one on me! I was taught that muscles respond, or contract, due to stimuli from nerves.

Dehydration is another question, but does anyone seriously believe that Tiger is out there dehydrated?

And, BTW, is there anything you DON'T do?

Even the cause of cramps is under review now. It was always thought to be dehydration, but now some may be caused by nerve overstimulation. Back spasms have always been a mystery.

[Buckeyebowman]

8 hours ago, boogielicious said:

Even the cause of cramps is under review now. It was always thought to be dehydration, but now some may be caused by nerve overstimulation. Back spasms have always been a mystery.

Thank God I have only had them one time in my life, and it was at a fairly young age. To this day I have no clue what brought them on, and my life was pure misery for two days. I couldn't stand, sit, or lie down! Then they went away and never returned.

[iacas]

22 hours ago, Buckeyebowman said:

Hmmmm, that's a new one on me! I was taught that muscles respond, or contract, due to stimuli from nerves.

Dehydration is another question, but does anyone seriously believe that Tiger is out there dehydrated?

The point is that it's not the same thing as the nerve issue he had before. People without nerve damage can have back spasms. Muscles normally contract due to stimuli from nerves, but a spasm is not a "normal" contraction of a muscle.

And I didn't say he was dehydrated. I just quoted Google.

3 minutes ago, Buckeyebowman said:

Thank God I have only had them one time in my life, and it was at a fairly young age. To this day I have no clue what brought them on, and my life was pure misery for two days. I couldn't stand, sit, or lie down! Then they went away and never returned.

It probably wasn't a pinched nerve due to a bulging disc.