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16 minutes ago, b101 said:

So hard to know where to start, but I particularly enjoyed the part where apparently using your left side gives you Tour-player lag.

Maybe he should do a piece on how the position of your third toe causes you to hit a draw next?

And how if you have a larger second toe than you do a big toe, you're destined to be a fader of the ball.

Unless you're left-handed and play in the southern hemisphere…

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I gave this tip a try the other day at the range. I wish I had room to video tap a face on swing. I was at a range with hitting bays. I found no difference in result of the swing. At least It's not uncomfortable to grip the club like that. 

The guy clearly is trying to hard justify why this is a good tip 

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On 8/3/2017 at 9:25 PM, iacas said:

Turn up the volume.

The problem is actually that this type of problem exists everywhere from many instructors… not just "on the Internet."

This is a local instructor, FWIW.

Jesus frigging Christ! How God damned dumb do you think I am? Of course I checked the volume! Since the thing was obviously taped off of a TV, the sound quality didn't exactly surprise me! Just wished I could have heard what was coming out of the friggin' dummy's mouth!

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14 minutes ago, Buckeyebowman said:

Jesus frigging Christ! How God damned dumb do you think I am? Of course I checked the volume! Since the thing was obviously taped off of a TV, the sound quality didn't exactly surprise me! Just wished I could have heard what was coming out of the friggin' dummy's mouth!

Ha!

Yeah, honestly, I couldn't hear a damn thing either. :-) 

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35 minutes ago, Buckeyebowman said:

Jesus frigging Christ! How God damned dumb do you think I am?

If I thought you were being dumb I'd say you were being dumb. Chill. It's just golf.

FWIW I assume almost everyone is smarter than the "tip" in the video!

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FWIW I heard the video just fine.....My question is where do you think he came up with this nonsense? Was hitting balls one day and just tried it? Wtf?

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1 minute ago, Vinsk said:

FWIW I heard the video just fine.....My question is where do you think he came up with this nonsense? Was hitting balls one day and just tried it? Wtf?

I have no idea.

I'm still just trying to figure out how moving your right thumb makes your left hip engage. :-)

Maybe that song is wrong. "The right thumb's connected to the… left hip bone."?

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8 minutes ago, iacas said:

I have no idea.

I'm still just trying to figure out how moving your right thumb makes your left hip engage. :-)

Maybe that song is wrong. "The right thumb's connected to the… left hip bone."?

Lol! Yeah I'd love to hear him explain the biomechanics of the right thumb and it's relationship to the left hip. Maybe he's just a fan of Six degrees of Kevin Bacon....but with body parts....

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On 8/6/2017 at 8:11 PM, David in FL said:

Ha!

Yeah, honestly, I couldn't hear a damn thing either. :-) 

Thank you! Went back and tried to watch it again. Even blew it up full size to see if that would make a difference. It didn't! Volume insufficient!

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My volume is at 50% for Youtube video and 50% for my laptop setting. I can hear the video just fine. 

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42 minutes ago, Buckeyebowman said:

Thank you! Went back and tried to watch it again. Even blew it up full size to see if that would make a difference. It didn't! Volume insufficient!

I was able to watch it just fine on my phone, which due to the ridiculous case it's in, always sounds like a muted echo.

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Is he insinuating that you actually swing like this, or just as a drill so that you start to feel how your left arm engages in the swing?

 

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9 hours ago, mtsalmela80 said:

Is he insinuating that you actually swing like this, or just as a drill so that you start to feel how your left arm engages in the swing?

I think the latter, but… it doesn't really do anything that he says it does.

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I'm sorry, I'm confused, what the @#$W& was he talking about?? (guess that tells you what I thought of his "tips")

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3 hours ago, paperclip said:

I'm sorry, I'm confused, what the @#$W& was he talking about?? (guess that tells you what I thought of his "tips")

You're not confused. I think you nailed it.

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On 8/7/2017 at 10:05 PM, saevel25 said:

My volume is at 50% for Youtube video and 50% for my laptop setting. I can hear the video just fine. 

 

On 8/7/2017 at 10:28 PM, billchao said:

I was able to watch it just fine on my phone, which due to the ridiculous case it's in, always sounds like a muted echo.

How nice for you both! But how does your situation benefit mine?

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40 minutes ago, Buckeyebowman said:

How nice for you both! But how does your situation benefit mine?

You claim volume is insufficient. Yet, two of use both can hear it clearly not even close to the highest level. The video was adequately viewable and understandable. 

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