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post #1 of 81
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Having watched a few episodes of the Haney Project with Charles Barkley and Ray Romano, it was obvious that Haney had some special challenges. Barkely was out of shape and battled his notorious glitch. Romano was preoccupied with work, not practicing and was providing the "entertainment value" that the producer's surely had in mind.

 

However, with Phelps as his student,  he has a young, fit, (and sometimes very mellow) coordinated ultra athlete. 

 

Haney shortened his back swing and then revealed the key making quick improvements - stand there and give him 100 good swings after batting balls for a couple of hours.  Interestingly, he never says what makes those 100 swings "good".

 

I am convinced that he would be better served by iacas and mvmac and 5 Simple Keys.

 

What kind of results do you think Phelps is going to experience?  

 

How much of an improvement do you think we will see over the course of the show?

post #2 of 81
I think he would be better served by 5sk, partly because that's a great system, partly because hank Haney uses the wrong ball flight laws. Most of his drills seem to cause misunderstanding with the swing
post #3 of 81
With a goal of only to beat his previous best score of 91, he should kill it. That doesn't strike me as all that aggressive of a goal for a world class athlete.
post #4 of 81
Holy Moses he is flexible. Did you see the thing he did with the club behind his back?

Denzel Washington was too funny. I don't even play and I'm better than Charles Barkley.
post #5 of 81

Phelps is going to get better because he is going to be playing a lot more.  He is not going to get a lot better because Haney is teaching him.

 

After watching what Haney tried to do with Barkley, Romano, etc...I do not think Phelps will improve as much as he should.

post #6 of 81

How far behind is the show?  Meaning, when do they tape it vs. when do they show it.  The reason I ask is because I saw Phelps on TV during the Phoenix Open pro-am and he didn't look too good.  I hope the show is filming now, as opposed to say back in the winter or something, because that would mean its already been spoiled, sort of.

post #7 of 81
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Originally Posted by Golfingdad View Post

How far behind is the show?  Meaning, when do they tape it vs. when do they show it.  The reason I ask is because I saw Phelps on TV during the Phoenix Open pro-am and he didn't look too good.  I hope the show is filming now, as opposed to say back in the winter or something, because that would mean its already been spoiled, sort of.

 

They showed tape of him at the Ryder Cup Pro am.......so late August.  6 months back?

post #8 of 81
Haney's a hack.
post #9 of 81

Just started watching last night, looks very interesting.  I never got a chance to see the Barkley or Romano episodes, will have to look for those.

post #10 of 81

I've never been a fan of Haney, or his teaching methods. I can't imagine Phelps breaking 80 on a regular basis, he's almost too flexiable for the game.

 

CRUSHER47-- Man, I love your avatar!!!

post #11 of 81
Phelps looks like he's got the steady head and arms straight going. It didn't look like Haney was making him do the outside inside loop dee loop. His hands do look like they're far from the body at address. He is tall maybe needs to alter the lie angle of his clubs?

Haney's lesson to keep him from sucking the clubhead inside made sense too.

What the hell do I know, but the first show I can't really take Haney to task. Maybe those more qualified can chime in.
post #12 of 81

I would get so mad having to hit just a tee for an hour!  I would say "F%^& this" and walk away.  LOL

post #13 of 81
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Originally Posted by Old1964 View Post

 

Haney shortened his back swing and then revealed the key making quick improvements - stand there and give him 100 good swings after batting balls for a couple of hours.  Interestingly, he never says what makes those 100 swings "good".

 

I am convinced that he would be better served by iacas and mvmac and 5 Simple Keys.

 

What kind of results do you think Phelps is going to experience?  

 

How much of an improvement do you think we will see over the course of the show?

 

Thanks!  a1_smile.gif  I only saw a few segments of the show, I know they're going to replay it a thousand times lol  What stood out to me the most was how he bowed his left wrist and the club worked  inside his hands on the takeaway.  But I only saw a few dtl swings.  If Haney has him doing more a steady head then that's great.

 

I think he'll get better, he hasn't been playing very long right?  So any practice he does will help him improve.  There are worse things he could be doing than Haney's take it outside and loop it in on the downswing for a relative beginner.  Especially for what I saw.

 

They say he's a 24 handicap in this video

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by nevets88 View Post

Phelps looks like he's got the steady head and arms straight going. It didn't look like Haney was making him do the outside inside loop dee loop. His hands do look like they're far from the body at address. He is tall maybe needs to alter the lie angle of his clubs?
 

 

Well he's with the right guys now a2_wink.gif

post #14 of 81

It looked like Phelps was doing the steady head of his own accord. I did see a glimpse of Haney translating him back a tad on the backswing. For a guy just starting out, he looks to have many positives going for him. I bet that he's got a lot of endorsement commitments and I'm guessing he probably doesn't get as much practice as he'd like.

 

And Haney made him run out of breath. I couldn't believe that. Guy probably has a resting heart rate of 40 and Haney makes him put his hands on his knees. Golf is not an endurance sport!

post #15 of 81

The swimming to golf ratio was about 10:1.  Hopefully that flips soon.

 

It was funny to see when Phelps told Haney he was winded and tired from hitting so many balls.  Put that in the "is golf a sport" thread!

post #16 of 81

With no disrespect to swimming, there was a lot of that. I skipped it. I think it took me 15 minutes to just watch the golf instruction parts. I wonder if NBC rights to the Olympics had anything to do with that.

post #17 of 81
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Originally Posted by nevets88 View Post

It looked like Phelps was doing the steady head of his own accord. I did see a glimpse of Haney translating him back a tad on the backswing. 

 

 

Ok I gotcha.  

post #18 of 81

Pretty fluff episode, lots of background on Phelps swimming and past encounters with Hank.  It appeared he had a lot of TM in his bag but I know he's now with Ping, wonder how TM and Ping feel about it. 

 

If Phelps gives it an honest effort and Hank can't him to beat his lowest score then it's either a pretty discouraging statement to the rest of us non Olympic athletes or shows how bad an instructor Haney really is. 

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