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Stop Aiming Right!


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Stop lining way to the right. This seems to affect about 90% of the golfers out there, maybe more. Alignment is not a commonality - not every good player aligns exactly the same - but none of them align WAY THE HECK RIGHT like many amateurs do.

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I do align right with my driver, because of this diagram from Hogan.  However, I place the ball a bit more forward with my driver, almost to my big toe.  And my most common miss is a push, 2nd most common is a push fade or slice.  Hmmm.  When I square up to the target I fade/slice more often with my driver.

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(Edit: I thought I was on the forum as I navigated here from the New Content button.  If this is inappropriate to post here, please delete.)

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I don't align way right, but a bit right with my irons. My miss is a draw or pull draw. My stance is pretty much straight on. For my driver, I align with a slightly open stance which helps keep the hook away. 

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I do align right with my driver, because of this diagram from Hogan.  However, I place the ball a bit more forward with my driver, almost to my big toe.  And my most common miss is a push, 2nd most common is a push fade or slice.  Hmmm.  When I square up to the target I fade/slice more often with my driver.

Trust me…  I'm not talking about aiming a little tiny bit right. 

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Trust me…  I'm not talking about aiming a little tiny bit right. 

Right, there are some guys that aim well right, like 30+ yards.

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You know, I've seen this too with friends but often they'll end up pulling the ball right back on line so I figure they're doing it on purpose.

I always align 5 or 10 yards right with irons because I draw them.  More apt to line up a bit left with driver/3 wood cuz I tend to cut those.  I've never had a problem with alignment and I'm baffled watching the pro's using alignment sticks and saying it's the most common problem people face.  Seems to come naturally to me.  I align the club face to my target then line my body up accordingly, seems simple but evidently not.

That's not to say I won't block one right or yank one left occasionally but I don't think I've ever had consistent aiming issues related to alignment, not sure why.

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I struggled with this this year.  Can't believe I didn't identify it sooner.  Kept trying to fix one thing or another and then finally went to check my alignment and things kind of took care of themselves.

 

Its important to keep track of lining yourself up correctly after looking at your target...if that makes sense.  Everybody looks at their target and then has some way of lining up to that.  You need to be consistent in how you line yourself up after picking your line/target.

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Are there good alignment drills? Because a I struggle with this a lot. 

Just put an alignment stick down. Use that and a camera to check.

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I used to be guilty of this when my normal shot was a "draw" of 30+ yards off the tee. I have since corrected my alignment and swing so that this is no longer necessary. Makes it a lot easier to not have to compensate for being so mis-aligned.

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You know, I've seen this too with friends but often they'll end up pulling the ball right back on line so I figure they're doing it on purpose.

I used to be guilty of this when my normal shot was a "draw" of 30+ yards off the tee. I have since corrected my alignment and swing so that this is no longer necessary. Makes it a lot easier to not have to compensate for being so mis-aligned.

My dad plays a pull draw, he aims 15-20 yards right (doesn't even know he does it). It can be a very playable pattern, for the past 20 years his handicap has been in the mid to low single digit range. You're just not going to hit the ball very high and there can be a lot of timing involved.

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My dad plays a pull draw, he aims 15-20 yards right (doesn't even know he does it). It can be a very playable pattern, for the past 20 years his handicap has been in the mid to low single digit range. You're just not going to hit the ball very high and there can be a lot of timing involved.

Mine wasn't much of a pull draw. I would hit the ball with a square face but a VERY in-to-out path, leading to large hooks that went higher than you might expect (since the face wasn't shut when I hit them). I would "draw" my 9-iron nearly 15 yards on a normal shot, which I know scared spectators at the state tournament a couple of times when I hit the ball directly at them to the right of the green before it would curve back towards the green.

It worked for me for the golf season that year, but I spent the winter fixing it since a hook of that magnitude is unplayable on many courses that aren't wide open. I would also have issues if the face ended up open, leading to shots that were blocked quite a ways off to the right of the target if something in my swing went bad.

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Right, there are some guys that aim well right, like 30+ yards.

This is what I'm working on, and I noticed that MOST people aim 25-45 degrees off. Even a couple of the single digit golfers I know.

As I commented before this is an excellent comment from Erik.

EDIT meant to quote Erik about "wayyyyy right", getting used to this new site. 

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Wish there was  graphic for what "way right" looks like. Most guys I see are lining up left (open) to play aka combat a big slice. I struggle with driver and some of it is alignment because depending on the day trying to control a curve, which ends up being exaggerated by the distance a driver travels. Lately been squaring up and hitting weird punch drives that I'm a certain look an awful lot like what you'd expect a really old guy to hit. Plan on getting this sorted out over the winter, currently looking for a new instructor.

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Wish there was  graphic for what "way right" looks like. Most guys I see are lining up left (open) to play aka combat a big slice. I struggle with driver and some of it is alignment because depending on the day trying to control a curve, which ends up being exaggerated by the distance a driver travels. Lately been squaring up and hitting weird punch drives that I'm a certain look an awful lot like what you'd expect a really old guy to hit. Plan on getting this sorted out over the winter, currently looking for a new instructor.

The shoulder alignment plays a big role as well. Sometimes the feet and shoulders are misaligned and it's easy to get used to this.

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Guilty of this and was pointed out to me today actually. I really struggle with alignment. It feels very strange when I'm told to move more left in fact.  I loose alignment after picking a target in front the ball walk up and life up.

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Mine wasn't much of a pull draw. I would hit the ball with a square face but a VERY in-to-out path, leading to large hooks that went higher than you might expect (since the face wasn't shut when I hit them). I would "draw" my 9-iron nearly 15 yards on a normal shot, which I know scared spectators at the state tournament a couple of times when I hit the ball directly at them to the right of the green before it would curve back towards the green.

It worked for me for the golf season that year, but I spent the winter fixing it since a hook of that magnitude is unplayable on many courses that aren't wide open. I would also have issues if the face ended up open, leading to shots that were blocked quite a ways off to the right of the target if something in my swing went bad.

But if you lined up square it would become a very closed face and a more square path. Very much a pull draw relative to the aim line. I've struggled with this problem as well. I was always striving to hit that true push draw but it's just so easy to start cheating with the feet.

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But if you lined up square it would become a very closed face and a more square path. Very much a pull draw relative to the aim line. I've struggled with this problem as well. I was always striving to hit that true push draw but it's just so easy to start cheating with the feet.

Square face relative to my point of aim. It was not a pull at all, just a large hook. It always started where I aimed. 

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Square face relative to my point of aim. It was not a pull at all, just a large hook. It always started where I aimed. 

Guess I got a little mixed up there. That's a better problem to have.

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Right, there are some guys that aim well right, like 30+ yards.

Is this down to the whole idea that aimingaway from danger actually makes you hit towards it?

Ive read a few magazine articles where they recomend slicers to aim right but concentrate on swinging in to out.

30yds do seem a little OTT.

For me its a little left to make room for the "slight" fade

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I was doing this earlier this year like said way to the right 34-50 yrds but pulling it back down the middle, it was working. I initially did it to get rid of the miss right, bad shots were just straight, so it took away one side of the course. The last couple months I have been trying to line up straight but as a result my shots are more unpredictable sometimes a pull, big slice, big hook. It was a little disconcerting at times but I've been dialing it in little by little and I feel that if I keep at it in a few more months I will become more accurate and not have a problem when the tee boxes have huge trees overhanging hopefully one day I can just hit em long and straight maybe little fade would be my optimum shot.

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Take a look at this video and tell me if you think this constitutes lining up "way right," or whether this is an acceptable amount given your concept of a good golf swing. Go to the 1:00 mark in the video to see how the body or at least the toe line is aimed right of the direction the ball flies. 

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Take a look at this video and tell me if you think this constitutes lining up "way right," or whether this is an acceptable amount given your concept of a good golf swing. Go to the 1:00 mark in the video to see how the body or at least the toe line is aimed right of the direction the ball flies. http://youtu.be/dzc2QLmd_MY

It looks way right, but it seems like the narrator even stated that Moe's swing looks like a big pull?

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