LIV Golf Now Closed?

[Vinsk]

29 minutes ago, 70sSanO said:

point was that even on a golf site like this, there isn’t much buzz about a number of tournaments.

I watched Cantlay collapse. I found it to be quite entertaining but I didn’t post about it here. I bet there’s quite a bit here who are in the same boat….

[70sSanO]

2 hours ago, Vinsk said:

I watched Cantlay collapse. I found it to be quite entertaining but I didn’t post about it here. I bet there’s quite a bit here who are in the same boat….

I absolutely agree with you that a lot of people watch and don’t post.

That was quite an epic poor judgment meltdown.

John

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9 hours ago, 70sSanO said:

My point was that even on a golf site like this, there isn’t much buzz about a number of tournaments.

True but we are also in somewhat of the off season now. I did what some of the last tournament and am watching parts of Zozo. Do football fans watch the preseason very much? Do baseball fans watch every inning of all 162 games? Some tournaments deserve buzz and others don’t. IMO no LIV tournament deserves buzz. 

[70sSanO]

I can talk hockey more than football or baseball.  The off-season is an excruciating time, but most fan base “sites” are  engaged from the draft through world juniors, rookie camp and pre-season.  There can be more buzz before a season starts than in the waning weeks of another wait til next year season.

This is not, nor will it ever be a fan base site; neither will any other individual (non-location team) sport website be.  So it will never have the same buzz.

I can’t speak for others, but as the LIV saga has raged on, I’ve found there are a precious few players I would really miss watching if they left.  But I enjoy watching the sport.

John

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8 hours ago, 70sSanO said:

I can’t speak for others, but as the LIV saga has raged on, I’ve found there are a precious few players I would really miss watching if they left.  But I enjoy watching the sport.

Same with me. There are always new players coming up that are fun to watch. I don’t watch the Champions Tour much, which is similar to some respect. These guys aged out and I really don’t miss them.

[iacas]

[70sSanO]

No oil no golf?

John

[iacas]

 

[Vinsk]

I’ll admit I watched the last round for about 30min. It’s really rather embarrassing how they constantly post tweets from people about how amazing the event is. It’s incredibly transparent that Feherty is desperately trying to appear excited as well.

[Archie Bunker]

I sometimes watch the highlights on YouTube. Can't take more than a few minutes of LIV. Seems like forced excitement from the announcers, along with silly team names and a bunch of established pros in short pants playing an exhibition. Plenty of money for meaningless wins. The Saudis may have plenty of money to keep this thing going, but I think viewer interest in this has already peaked.

[phan52]

LIV says they are trying to increase viewership by expanding viewership to other demographics. But PGA Tour viewership demographics are people who decidedly spend a lot of money. That won't change and that is why the TV contracts are so massive. 

I would guess that a lot of the PGA Tour demographics don't even know how to find Youtube. 😎

 

Edited October 17, 2022 by phan52

[GolfLug]

The low viewership is not surprising. This goes a long way to prove that Golf is really hard to watch without a significant competitive aspect or historical context. Outside of generational names like Tiger or maybe Rory every now and then, no one in the current crop can pull viewership worth mentioning in silly quasi competitive events at non-descript venues.    

Maybe they were thinking they would have a successful model of equivalence of the wildly popular IPL (Cricket) model with all the dumb team names. I am obviously biased but I am not sure how even the most ardent supporter of LIV thinks of it as a hit. 

I am wondering what the life expectancy of LIV is at this point. Saudis may not care about throwing away money but now that some of the dust has settled around the launch and the actual golf has begun it is noticeably dull and thoroughly ungripping. This can't be washing too many dirty linens for them.  

Edited October 17, 2022 by GolfLug

[Archie Bunker]

The Saudis are spending the big bucks to gain something out of it. I doubt if Saudi Arabia is a nation of passionate golfers. Once they realize that they are not getting what they want, they will pull the plug. It could go on for quite some time though. I don't think right now they are getting their money's worth.

[iacas]

12 minutes ago, Archie Bunker said:

The Saudis are spending the big bucks to gain something out of it. I doubt if Saudi Arabia is a nation of passionate golfers. Once they realize that they are not getting what they want, they will pull the plug. It could go on for quite some time though. I don't think right now they are getting their money's worth.

Who says they're not getting what they want, though?

[Aguirre]

LIV Golfers On Saudi Course Forced To Putt Around Woman Being Beheaded

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KING ABDULLAH ECONOMIC CITY, SAUDI ARABIA—Players on the LIV Golf tour expressed frustration Friday over the hazards on the course at the Royal Greens Golf and Country Club, where they were reportedly forced to putt...

 

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6 hours ago, Aguirre said:

LIV Golfers On Saudi Course Forced To Putt Around Woman Being Beheaded

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KING ABDULLAH ECONOMIC CITY, SAUDI ARABIA—Players on the LIV Golf tour expressed frustration Friday over the hazards on the course at the Royal Greens Golf and Country Club, where they were reportedly forced to putt...

 

I love The Onion!

[Archie Bunker]

13 hours ago, iacas said:

Who says they're not getting what they want, though?

They will know it at some point. The exposure right now always seems to lead to the negatives in Saudi Arabia whenever LIV is brought up. They can't seem to shake it. Unlikely to be transformed into "good guys" by sponsoring a controversial golf league.

[Vinsk]

I’m not even sure what their motive is at this point. The Saudi’s continue to commit atrocities and certainly can’t think having a golf league will neutralize that. They have a ridiculous amount of funding but they’re not immune to the power of money. Eventually pouring money out to non-Saudi people will become tiresome. Based on the numbers shown it doesn’t appear the interest is going the way Norman claims it to be. Not sure what the projected goal is here.