General COVID-19 Topic

[Double Mocha Man]

9 minutes ago, iacas said:

They want the organ to have a good chance of success. Pretty standard type stuff, really.

... and they want the recipient to have a good chance of living beyond the transplant, relative to dying from Covid-19 after a delicate and difficult operation and with a well-intentioned organ.

Edited January 28, 2022 by Double Mocha Man

[iacas]

Good for Neil Young and Warner Brothers.

Neil Young’s Music No Longer On Spotify; Joe Rogan Silent Today On Covid Vaccine Dust-Up With Iconic Singer – Update

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The music platform seems to have picked the podcaster over the iconic songwriter in a battle over misinformation

[iacas]

Joni Mitchell - News Item

Joni Mitchell is also off Spotify.

An Assortment of Links and Observations Regarding the Neil Young –Joe Rogan Spotify Saga

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But it’s also correct that Neil Young has a right to make clear that he doesn’t want to be associated with a service that is associated with Rogan, and to publicize his stance.

 

[boogielicious]

7 minutes ago, iacas said:

Joni Mitchell - News Item

Joni Mitchell is also off Spotify.

An Assortment of Links and Observations Regarding the Neil Young –Joe Rogan Spotify Saga

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But it’s also correct that Neil Young has a right to make clear that he doesn’t want to be associated with a service that is associated with Rogan, and to publicize his stance.

 

I hope this starts a real challenge to misinformation. People are making money off it and it can be lethal to the fools who listen.

[iacas]

[Double Mocha Man]

Smart people doing dumb things.  For political reasons...

[nevets88]

8 hours ago, iacas said:

Joni Mitchell - News Item

Joni Mitchell is also off Spotify.

An Assortment of Links and Observations Regarding the Neil Young –Joe Rogan Spotify Saga

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But it’s also correct that Neil Young has a right to make clear that he doesn’t want to be associated...

 

I cancelled Spotify Premium, still have an account but not paying, you need an account to access public playlists I think. Moved playlists over to YouTube Music, see how that goes. If it doesn't work out will try Apple Music or Amazon. YouTube Premium which includes Music also removes ads from videos and you can download videos and vids will keep playing when you switch to other apps on iPhone.

[Double Mocha Man]

Just heard a report today on NPR where Joe Rogan says he's going to try to bring on more guests with differing views.  And work on being more scientific and less controversial.  He seemed very civil as he spoke.  We'll see.  He was probably read the riot act by Spotify.

[iacas]

8 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

He was probably read the riot act by Spotify.

I doubt it.

[dennyjones]

3 hours ago, iacas said:

Thanks for sharing this.    Sadly this truism happens all too often.

[Wanzo]

38 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

Just heard a report today on NPR where Joe Rogan says he's going to try to bring on more guests with differing views.  And work on being more scientific and less controversial.  He seemed very civil as he spoke.  We'll see.  He was probably read the riot act by Spotify.

He might have more leverage than Spotify in this battle.  Thing is no one is changing their mind on anything covid related this point.  Free advertising for his podcast.  

[Double Mocha Man]

Not a fan of Joe.  And he needs to refrain from doing close-ups...

[saevel25]

Study done by John's Hopkins says that Lockdowns had hardly any significant impact on mortality rates. 

A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf (jhu.edu)
 

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Overall, our meta-analysis fails to confirm that lockdowns have had a large, significant effect on mortality rates. Studies examining the relationship between lockdown strictness (based on the OxCGRT stringency index) find that the average lockdown in Europe and the United States only reduced COVID-19 mortality by 0.2% compared to a COVID-19 policy based solely on recommendations. Shelter-in-place orders (SIPOs) were also ineffective. They only reduced COVID-19 mortality by 2.9%

However, closing non-essential businesses seems to have had some effect (reducing COVID-19 mortality by 10.6%), which is likely to be related to the closure of bars. Also, masks may reduce COVID-19 mortality, but there is only one study that examines universal mask mandates. The effect of border closures, school closures and limiting gatherings on COVID-19 mortality yields precision-weighted estimates of -0.1%, -4.4%, and 1.6%, respectively. Lockdowns (compared to no lockdowns) also do not reduce COVID-19 mortality.

 

 

[imsys0042]

24 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

Study done by John's Hopkins says that Lockdowns had hardly any significant impact on mortality rates. 

A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf (jhu.edu)
 

 

I would say that that article has it exactly right.   Closing where people can get together and spread gives people fewer opportunities to spread.  However, doing a general "lockdown" doesn't do any good when so many people ignore it.   During the initial lockdown when so little was known about Covid, and the lockdown orders were for people to not get together at all....2 of the 6 neighbors on our block had parties, went to other peoples' houses, etc.   Heck, that was before there was information about how outdoor transmission is drastically less likely.   People were distancing 6 feet when you walked down the sidewalk.

Basically I read this as some type of confirmation that too many people are going to do what they want anyway, the rest of us be damned.

[The Flush]

I didn't realize we had a lockdown. Never really had one around here other than a few months of school.

[Double Mocha Man]

1 minute ago, The Flush said:

I didn't realize we had a lockdown. Never really had one around here other than a few months of school.

You should leave your house once in awhile.  😄  Even golf courses were closed!  (I think they had a "lockdown" in Ohio)

[Double Mocha Man]

People willing to die for their beliefs.  But there's nothing noble about it.  It's a stupid battlefield to die on.   Covid always gets the last word:

WSP trooper who told gov to 'kiss my ass' over COVID rules dies

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The state patrol did not confirm the cause of Robert LaMay’s death, but several news...

 

[saevel25]

41 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

You should leave your house once in awhile.  😄  Even golf courses were closed!  (I think they had a "lockdown" in Ohio)

They did. 

His location is a very small town, not very close to a major city. I could see them just not listening to it