Jump to content
Check out the Spin Axis Podcast! ×
Note: This thread is 1136 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

Posted
2 minutes ago, iacas said:

GAME Golf Live still uploads via the phone. Were you uploading via computer?

Yes, I was on the oldest version "Classic" that only uploads through a computer.  I guess I can't complain too much, I have been using it since Spring 2015 so got 6 full season out of it.  I now need to decide if I stay with Game Golf and upgrade to "Pro" or go to another brand.  My concern with the "Live" version is if they stopped supporting Classic now, how long until "Live" is dropped?  I am concerned about "Pro" since I've seen many negative reviews.

Stuart M.
 

I am a "SCRATCH GOLFER".  I hit ball, Ball hits Tree, I scratch my head. 😜

Driver: Ping G410 Plus 10.5* +1* / 3 Hybrid: Cleveland HIBORE XLS / 4,5 & 6 Hybrids: Mizuno JP FLI-HI / Irons/Wedges 7-8-9-P-G: Mizuno JPX800 HD / Sand Wedge: Mizuno JPX 800 / Lob Wedge: Cleveland CBX 60* / Putter: Odyssey White Hot OG 7S / Balls: Srixon Soft / Beer: Labatt Blue (or anything nice & cold) 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted

I wasn't sure if I had the classic or live versions, but I just checked. Looks like I have live, so I should be all set to keep using it.

-- Daniel

In my bag: :callaway: Paradym :callaway: Epic Flash 3.5W (16 degrees)

:callaway: Rogue Pro 3-PW :edel: SMS Wedges - V-Grind (48, 54, 58):edel: Putter

 :aimpoint:

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
1 hour ago, iacas said:

GAME Golf Live still uploads via the phone. Were you uploading via computer?

I have a GAME Golf Live and I was uploading via computer since I got it.  I think I tried a phone connection once about four or so years ago.  Should I be using the phone connection, and does it have to be during the round or is after okay?  I'd really rather not leave something connected to bluetooth for four hours if I can help it (although I do it with headphones when I go hiking). 

-- Michael | My swing! 

"You think you're Jim Furyk. That's why your phone is never charged." - message from my mother

Driver:  Titleist 915D2.  4-wood:  Titleist 917F2.  Titleist TS2 19 degree hybrid.  Another hybrid in here too.  Irons 5-U, Ping G400.  Wedges negotiable (currently 54 degree Cleveland, 58 degree Titleist) Edel putter. 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Administrator
Posted

Uploading three rounds from my phone isn’t working right now anyway.

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator
Posted
2 hours ago, StuM said:

i got an email back from Game Golf today.  Unfortunately for me they are no longer supporting "Game Golf Classic".

Well that’s it for me then. I don’t have enough faith in them to want to upgrade.

  • Like 1

Bill

“By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.” - Confucius

My Swing Thread

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted

I am also unable to upload from my phone right now using my Live unit (rounds played over the last two days).

- John

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
1 hour ago, billchao said:

Well that’s it for me then. I don’t have enough faith in them to want to upgrade.

I have to agree.  Now I have to figure out what option to replace with.  There seems to be many options.  Is there a thread that compares the different ones?

Stuart M.
 

I am a "SCRATCH GOLFER".  I hit ball, Ball hits Tree, I scratch my head. 😜

Driver: Ping G410 Plus 10.5* +1* / 3 Hybrid: Cleveland HIBORE XLS / 4,5 & 6 Hybrids: Mizuno JP FLI-HI / Irons/Wedges 7-8-9-P-G: Mizuno JPX800 HD / Sand Wedge: Mizuno JPX 800 / Lob Wedge: Cleveland CBX 60* / Putter: Odyssey White Hot OG 7S / Balls: Srixon Soft / Beer: Labatt Blue (or anything nice & cold) 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator
Posted
47 minutes ago, StuM said:

I have to agree.  Now I have to figure out what option to replace with.  There seems to be many options.  Is there a thread that compares the different ones?

There are a couple, but not really any comprehensive comparison. Most people just buy one and stick with it.

I’m leaning towards ShotScope, but I can just as easily go rogue for the year and save $200. At this point I’m not going to learn anything about my game I don’t already know.

Bill

“By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.” - Confucius

My Swing Thread

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Administrator
Posted
1 minute ago, billchao said:

I’m leaning towards ShotScope, but I can just as easily go rogue for the year and save $200. At this point I’m not going to learn anything about my game I don’t already know.

When GG stops working, that's the way I'm going to go. None of the other systems really handle tagging the way I like. Especially ShotScope. And I don't like that most of the tags have batteries.

(Arccos, mostly.)

  • Like 1

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator
Posted
Just now, iacas said:

When GG stops working, that's the way I'm going to go. None of the other systems really handle tagging the way I like. Especially ShotScope. And I don't like that most of the tags have batteries.

(Arccos, mostly.)

Yea I don’t mind the watch as much as you (my Apple Watch with Rhino Band is bigger than the V3), but I really like the tagging of GG. I doubt the ShotScope tags are going to be any better than GG in terms of popping out of my PURE grips, either, which is my other issue.

Arccos is a non-starter for me.

Bill

“By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.” - Confucius

My Swing Thread

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted

Is the issue with Arccos just the size of the tags?

Tristan Hilton

My Equipment: 
Titleist TSR2 Driver (Fujikura Pro 2.0 TS; 10.5°) · PXG 0211 FWs (Diamana S+ 60; 15° and 21°) · PXG 0211 Hybrid (MMT 80; 22°) · Edel SMS Irons (SteelFiber i95; 5-GW) · Edel SMS Pro Wedges (SteelFiber i110; 56°, 60°) · Edel Classic Blade Putter (32") · Maxfli Tour Ball · Pinned Prism Rangefinder · SuperStroke Grips · Flightscope Mevo · TRUE Linkswear Shoes · Vessel Player V Pro 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator
Posted
1 minute ago, tristanhilton85 said:

Is the issue with Arccos just the size of the tags?

For me, that’s one of them. The tags also have batteries than can die and I don’t have confidence in automatic shot detection. There’s also the subscription fee to consider.

Bill

“By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.” - Confucius

My Swing Thread

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted

I have the Live version.   I always wear my Garmin watch.  I like the tagging of GG Live.   I won't change watches for ShotScope and I don't want anything to do with a battery like Arccos.   

GG's customer support and issues have persuaded me to discontinue shot data when my Live dies.  I like their strokes gained data but I know my areas of improvement. 

It's a shame, they have/had a good product.

From the land of perpetual cloudiness.   I'm Denny

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Administrator
Posted

GG should have been a subscription to their data/stats from the start.

  • Like 1
  • Upvote 1

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted

I've used Shotscope for 3 seaons now. It is okay, but a lot of room for improvement.

The V3 Shotscope watch isn't as bad as the V2 in terms of bulkiness, if you don't mind wearing a watch in the first place.

The watch automatically tags the club when you take a practice swing, but not always, so you have to take a practice swing/rehearsal, and then look at the watch to confirm the club is tagged. Sometimes the watch misses strokes, especially short game shots, and for me, especially in a bunker, where I might take more than 1 shot to get out. Sometimes the watch randomly records a shot that didn't happen. I assume it happens when I am doing something like carrying a club and it bumps on the ground or something. So you have to be aware of this and add/subtract during post-round edits.

The Shotscope pin-collect feature for ending a hole on the green and tracking putt distance is a neat idea, but it rarely gets the hole in the right spot in the green.

From what I can tell from photos, etc., the the user interface for viewing statistics is much better for GG and Arccos compared to Shotscope. Shotscope has made some improvements, but it still feels clunky to me, and I find it hard to get what I want out of the information. I prefer a dumbed-down analysis that just shows strokes gained, which Shotscope has now, but only strokes gained vs. a tour player. I would like to see strokes gained vs. various handicap levels.

For mapping rounds, I really liked Garmin's course maps, which were not google map satellite images, but some sort of proprietary rendering that IMO made viewing the round cleaner. But the Garmin CT10 tags are $300 plus you have to have a Garmin watch for another $100 at least.

-Peter

  • :titleist: TSR2
  • :callaway: Paradym, 4W
  • :pxg: GEN4 0317X, Hybrid
  • :srixon: ZX 3-iron, ZX5 4-AW
  • :cleveland:  RTX Zipcore 54 & 58
  • L.A.B. Golf Directed Force 2.1
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted

GameGolf is (was?) ideal for me because it was unobtrusive and I liked the app as an on-course GPS. I will probably just stop using tracking if/when GG stops supporting the Live unit.

- John

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted (edited)

It’s only a matter of time before they go completely under. I’m considering selling mine while there’s still a shred of value to it. 
it might be too late for that. 

Edited by CarlSpackler
Spelling

- Shane

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
3 hours ago, Darkfrog said:

The V3 Shotscope watch isn't as bad as the V2 in terms of bulkiness, if you don't mind wearing a watch in the first place.

Are there alternatives or is the watch required?  I love wearing a watch in everyday life but I hate doing it when swinging a golf club.  I own a GPS watch, but I keep it on my cart (I have it primarily because my neighbor sold it to me for very little money when he upgraded). 

-- Michael | My swing! 

"You think you're Jim Furyk. That's why your phone is never charged." - message from my mother

Driver:  Titleist 915D2.  4-wood:  Titleist 917F2.  Titleist TS2 19 degree hybrid.  Another hybrid in here too.  Irons 5-U, Ping G400.  Wedges negotiable (currently 54 degree Cleveland, 58 degree Titleist) Edel putter. 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Note: This thread is 1136 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    PlayBetter
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).
  • Posts

    • Day 525 - 2026-03-10 Got some work in before lessons today (was going to play after but it decided to POUR). Then like three minutes in later on.
    • Day 2 (10 Mar 26) - Worked on weight shift feel using slap stick drill (hands about 6” apart - coming back weight on trail foot - down - thru weight on lead foot….moved it to hitting chips w/9i playing what I call “leap frog” - hit 1st about 10yds, the next a couple past the 1st, for about 6 balls total.  Love it as the lies change, the distances vary making each swing slightly different. 
    • The first post is here:   Do you have an overly long backswing that ruins sequencing and leads to poor shots? In nearly 20 years of teaching, I've found 5 common faults. You don't have to swing like Jon Rahm, but a shorter swing will probably help you #PlayBetter golf. Which is your fatal flaw? #1 - Trail Elbow Bend Average golfers ♥️ bending their trail elbows. It can feel powerful! Tour players bend their trail elbows MUCH less. A wider trail elbow creates a longer hand path and preserves structure. It also forces more chest turn; not everything longer is bad! Overly bending your trail elbow can wreak havoc on your swing. It pulls your arms across/beside your body. It requires more time to get the elbow bend "out," ruining your sequencing. The lead arm often bends and low point control is destroyed. The misconception is that it will create more speed, but that's often the opposite of what happens. Golfers often feel they swing "easier" but FASTER with wider trail elbows. Want to play better golf with a shorter backswing? Don't bend your elbow so much. #2 - Hip (Pelvis) Turn I see this all the time: a golfer's hips are only 5-10° open at impact, but he turns them back 60°+ in the backswing. Unless your father is The Flash, your hips are probably not getting 40° open at impact from there! That's more rotation than Rory! Golfers who over-rotate their pelvis often over-turn everything - trail thigh/knee, chest/shoulders, etc. They have more work to do in the same ~0.3 seconds as a Tour player who turns back ~40° and turns through to impact 40° or so. Want to shorten the pelvis turn a bit? Learn to internally rotate into the trail hip, externally rotate away from the lead hip, and do "less" with your knees (extending and flexing) in the backswing. Learn some separation between chest and pelvis. #3 - Rolled Inside and Lifted Up Amateurs love to send the club (and their arms) around them. You see the red golfer here all the time at your local range. The problem? Your arms mostly take the club UP, not around. Going around creates no height until you have to hoist the club up in the air because you're halfway through your backswing and the club is waist high and three feet behind your butt! 😄  Learn to use your arms properly. Arms = up/down, body = around. Most golfers learn how little their arms really have to do in the backswing. The picture here is all you've gotta do (but maybe with a properly sized club!). #4 - Wide Takeaway Width is good, no? Yes, if you're wide at the right time and in the right spots. Golfers seeking width often don't hinge the club much early in the backswing… forcing them to hinge it late. Hinging the club late puts a lot of momentum into the club, wrists, and elbow just before we need to make a hairpin turn in transition and go the other direction at the start of the downswing. When you're driving into a hairpin curve, you go into it slowly and accelerate out of it. Waiting to hinge is like coasting down the straightaway and accelerating into the hairpin. Your car ends up off the road, and your golf ball off the course. Give hinging at a faster rate (earlier) then coasting to the top a try. You'll be able to accelerate out of the hairpin without the momentum of the arms and club pulling in the wrong direction.   #5 - Sway and Tilt Some sway is good but sometimes I see a golfer who just… keeps… swaying… Their chest leans forward a bit for balance, resulting in a whole lotta lean. The green line below is the GEARS "virtual spine." Pros sway a bit, but stay ~90°. This sway often combines with the extra pelvis turn because this golfer is not putting ANY limits on what the "middle of them" (their pelvis) is doing in the backswing. These golfers spend a lot of energy just to get back to neutral! The best players begin pushing forward EARLY in the backswing. Often before the club gets much past their trail foot! Pushing forward (softly) first stops your backward sway and then begins to get your body moving toward the target. Push softly, but early!  
    • I  no longer spend the time and effort trying to sell something I no longer need. Instead, if the clubs are in good condition, I go to my local golf shop or even Dicks Sporting Goods. Trade the clubs in for store credit and pick up something I need, like a hat. Cause you always need another golf hat!
    • Day 205 3-10 Wider backswing, reconnecting arm in downswing/arching wrist through. Also worked on less pause at the top. Recorded and hit a few foam balls. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.