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Hey guys, Ive been playing forged irons for about 3 years now. Last weekend however, a guy told me that forged iron sweet spots are actually not in the center. =0 He said the sweet spot is a half inch closer to the heel, and when i started hitting the ball in that spot, i instantly gained 5-10 yards on every iron. I am wondering whether this is common information, because ive been 5-10 yards shorter than i could have been for all these years. Just letting you guys know. =)


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It's not a "forged iron" thing; it's a "golf club" thing. Dangle (loosely) any/most irons between thumb and forefinger (mid-way up the shaft) so it hangs vertical. Get a ball and gently tap the face of the iron, letting it swing. Work the ball from toe to heel, tapping as you go. The horizontal position of the sweet spot/CoG is the place where the blade swings straight back and remains square i.e. no torsion/twisting. It's usually on the heel side of the centre and is more so in a "typical" long iron cf . a wedge.

Modern perimeter weighting and weight re-distribution has ameliorated this somewhat but it's still usually towards the heel.

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DavidFehertysBike Great Member

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Generally true, yes. But you still want to hit them in the middle.
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Shanks A Million Great Member

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Hey guys, Ive been playing forged irons for about 3 years now. Last weekend however, a guy told me that forged iron sweet spots are actually not in the center. =0 He said the sweet spot is a half inch closer to the heel, and when i started hitting the ball in that spot, i instantly gained 5-10 yards on every iron. I am wondering whether this is common information, because ive been 5-10 yards shorter than i could have been for all these years. Just letting you guys know. =)

I don't know what this guy was smoking. The method of manufacture has absolutely nothing to do with where the center of gravity is. That's like saying that cars made with metric sized parts are faster. The sweet spot on different clubs will be different, and it may be closer to the heel on one club, or closer to the toe on another.

What should be said is that it is generally closer to the heel on players clubs, and closer to the toe on game improvement clubs. MP-52s are players style clubs, so the sweet spot is likely nearer the heel. But in truth, if you are missing the sweet spot, you should know it. I can't imagine hitting my clubs off center and not realizing it. When you hit a club off center, even a half of an inch, the club twists. Too high or low, and the club will not react properly. When I miss the center of the clubface by any reasonable distance, I drop the club in the followthrough and let out a groan. My playing partners can find this amusing.
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anthony Dedicated Member

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Interesting. I just cleaned my irons before going to the range the other day and noticed the ball marks were all slightly off center towards the heel. Does that mean I'm awesome? Just kidding.
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clubchamp Great Member

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Maybe this is true but I'm sticking with focusing on the center of the club face. I won't be the first to say it but we all know what ugliness comes from getting it on the heel.
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I was shanking pitches this morning.

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^ HAHA, sorry bout that 0_0. And when i say closer to the heel, i am talking tiny lengths, not very noticeable at all. I don't know if this is true, but it is working for me. Also, i may have been doing this because mp 52's are not completely players irons, so they kind of "mute" the "pure" feeling. All i know is that i got instant results by setting the ball a little closer to the heel.

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I was shanking pitches this morning.

Just came back from the range, hit everything from driver to 9 iron totally sweet, had about 6 balls left, pull out my 58deg CG12 and shanked near every one.

Happened twice on Sunday from great drives, absolutely destroying my confidence, been playing 20 years and a shank was never even on the radar, am now terrifed of the wedge........... Guess need to go for a lesson as need some positve thoughts right now.
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^ HAHA, sorry bout that 0_0. And when i say closer to the heel, i am talking tiny lengths, not very noticeable at all. I don't know if this is true, but it is working for me. Also, i may have been doing this because mp 52's are not completely players irons, so they kind of "mute" the "pure" feeling. All i know is that i got instant results by setting the ball a little closer to the heel.

Not to be rude but if it is not noticeable how do you notice you're hitting it different?

I was really trying to avoid the "s" word... thanks
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Shanks A Million Great Member

Shanks A Million

Not to be rude but if it is not noticeable how do you notice you're hitting it different?

Higher handicap golfers don't often realize that they're not hitting it purely. Many of them will, on occasion, hit a shot where they can barely feel the ball. They consider this a fluke, a crazy one off shot. To them, the pure shot is very rare. To those of us who are more consistent, we expect (or hope that) every shot is struck this way. We at least expect to hit the ball solidly, if not pure. Higher handicaps hit everywhere, the toe, the heel, the topline, etc.

I have ballmarks the size of quarters on my iron and wedge faces. I didn't have them when I was a higher handicap. I don't think I've ever met anyone over a 10 handicap who has such marks. The lower the handicap, the smaller the marks. The most consistent ballstrikers I know have marks the size of a dime on their faces. I wouldn't mind getting my marks a bit smaller.
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All i know is that i got instant results by setting the ball a little closer to the heel.

Maybe this keeps you from hitting it off the toe?

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mattttt25 Well Established Member

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Seriously... I have a hard enough time just hitting the ball with the club. I should aim for the center but just a little bit towards the heel?

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