Jump to content
IGNORED

Rory McIlroy Topic (Was "Overrated")


senorchipotle

Recommended Posts

By no means am I saying that he isn't good, cause he's great. He's just not that great. I think Rory will be the next Lee Westwood, albeit with a prettier swing. I know a lot of you think/wish/hope he'll be the second coming, but I'm not buying that product. He hasn't shown me that fire you need to be a multiple major winner. I say he finishes his career with 2, maybe 3 majors and 10-15 tournament wins. I reckon he'll be a hall of famer, but never classed with the likes of tiger, jack, palmer, player, etc. thoughts...?
Link to comment
Share on other sites


I think it will interesting to see him and Rickie Fowler over the next 10-15 years to see who ends up being the better player. He's just 21, though Tiger already had a Masters on his resume by 21. Westwood has made it all the way to number 1 in the world without a major victory yet. As long as he doesnt become the next Sergio Garcia, all the talent in the world, come close a couple times to winning a major and then because of attitude basically lose it and become insignificant.

Driver-Taylormade Burner Ti 420 cc 10.5 deg reg flex
3 wood-orlimar rcx 14 deg
Hybrids-warrior golf 20 deg, 23 deg and 26 deg
6-pw-AFFINITY / ORLIMAR HT2 irons steel shafts, reg flex, 56 deg tour series wedge
Putter-Rife 2 Bar Hybrid Mallet...

Link to comment
Share on other sites


By no means am I saying that he isn't good, cause he's great. He's just not that great. I think Rory will be the next Lee Westwood, albeit with a prettier swing. I know a lot of you think/wish/hope he'll be the second coming, but I'm not buying that product. He hasn't shown me that fire you need to be a multiple major winner. I say he finishes his career with 2, maybe 3 majors and 10-15 tournament wins. I reckon he'll be a hall of famer, but never classed with the likes of tiger, jack, palmer, player, etc. thoughts...?

He's pretty good for a 21 year old. I'd be willing to bet a little money he'll win more tournaments than O'Hair, Kim, and Villegas put together when all is said and done.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I say we don't have a clue and can't possibly guesstimate the future for anyone on the PGA Tour.
  • Like 1

Ogio Grom | Callaway X Hot Pro | Callaway X-Utility 3i | Mizuno MX-700 23º | Titleist Vokey SM 52.08, 58.12 | Mizuno MX-700 15º | Titleist 910 D2 9,5º | Scotty Cameron Newport 2 | Titleist Pro V1x and Taylormade Penta | Leupold GX-1

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I'm with Zeph. Plus I never get the point when people say a player won't be as great as Jack, Tiger, Palmer, etc. Those are the all time greats of the game and to use them as a barometer of someone being overrated seems a bit much IMHO.

BO THE GOLFER

In my Top Flite stand bag:

Driver-Ping G400+ 10.5 degrees regular flex Hybrids-Ping I25 17 & 20 degrees stiff flex Irons-Ping I3 O-size 4 through lob wedge regular flex Putter-Nike Oz 6

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I don't think anyone expects him to be the next tiger. I bet he is going to win a bunch more than 15 times worldwide. Tiger was a freak as jack was. Player and Palmer aren't in the same class.

Brian

Link to comment
Share on other sites


The kids got talent galore, but I wonder if he has the focus and drive. We following him awhile during a practice round for the US Open last summer at Pebble, and while most of the other players seemed to be preparing hard, working with their caddies trying different shots, scoping out where to place the ball, etc., Rory seemed to be just going through the motions and not even concentrating at all on what he was doing. Most of the time he was on his Blackberry tapping out messages right up to when he'd hit the ball, then he'd just quickly grab a club and hit and then pull out the Blackberry again. At one point someone in the gallery beside me asked what he was chatting about, and Rory replied he was checking out picture of his new Ferrari and sending them to friends. I'm pleased for him that he's enjoying a Ferrari at 21 (actually I'm jealous as can be but that's a different issue), but frankly if it were me and I were trying to make my mark as a great player in a major like the Open at Pebble, I think I'd be working at preparing as much as possible and not just out for a casual stroll sharing car pictures with my mates.

Talent, undeniable. Ambition and drive? The jury is still out......
Link to comment
Share on other sites


The kids got talent galore, but I wonder if he has the focus and drive. We following him awhile during a practice round for the US Open last summer at Pebble, and while most of the other players seemed to be preparing hard, working with their caddies trying different shots, scoping out where to place the ball, etc., Rory seemed to be just going through the motions and not even concentrating at all on what he was doing. Most of the time he was on his Blackberry tapping out messages right up to when he'd hit the ball, then he'd just quickly grab a club and hit and then pull out the Blackberry again. At one point someone in the gallery beside me asked what he was chatting about, and Rory replied he was checking out picture of his new Ferrari and sending them to friends. I'm pleased for him that he's enjoying a Ferrari at 21 (actually I'm jealous as can be but that's a different issue), but frankly if it were me and I were trying to make my mark as a great player in a major like the Open at Pebble, I think I'd be working at preparing as much as possible and not just out for a casual stroll sharing car pictures with my mates.

this is exactly what i mean. he's got the talent to be great, but so does pretty much everybody out there. i haven't seen that drive from him. he's just happy to be a young, rich man; like ricky fowler and AK. I think camilo has IT, as far as the mental game goes, i just don't think he has as much talent. i've said it before and i'll say it again, i think matteo mannassero will be the next ''great'' golfer. after seeing him in a few tournaments, i can tell he has that intangible that rory is, at the moment, lacking.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I reckon he'll be a hall of famer, but never classed with the likes of tiger, jack, palmer, player, etc. thoughts...?

I guess I agree with this sentence, but I don't think he's overrated. I haven't heard too many people think he's the next Jack or Tiger. I don't think he's over- or under-rated. Just...well... rated.

In my bag:

Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

By no means am I saying that he isn't good, cause he's great. ... He hasn't shown me that fire you need to be a multiple major winner...

Not everyone is a charging Arnold Palmer, or a fist-pumping Tiger Woods. You say Rory won't be a Jack, but Jack Nicklaus was more of an iceman when he played, not fiery.

Not sure what you mean by the word fire. I hope you're not going the way of the network TV guys, who moan that "unqualified" people are winning majors and hurting longterm TV ratings. Marketing analysts say casual golf-watchers are less likely to tune in unless a marquee player is leading the tournament. Not sure I like the idea of tweaking golfdom in favor of the faint-hearted. Don't people who truly care about the game get any consideration? Nothing against you personally, SC. Didn't mean to go off on you. I just get upset at TV types who want to slant reality to increase TV revenues at all costs, rather than reflect reality. We'll save discussion on the college football BCS (big cash system) playoffs for another day.

Focus, connect and follow through!

  • Completed KBS Education Seminar (online, 2015)
  • GolfWorks Clubmaking AcademyFitting, Assembly & Repair School (2012)

Driver:  :touredge: EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  :callaway: Rogue 4W + 7W
Hybrid:  :callaway: Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  :callaway: Mavrik MAX 5i-PW
Wedges:  :callaway: MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter:image.png.b6c3447dddf0df25e482bf21abf775ae.pngInertial NM SL-583F, 34"  
Ball:  image.png.f0ca9194546a61407ba38502672e5ecf.png QStar Tour - Divide  ||  Bag: :sunmountain: Three 5 stand bag

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

this is exactly what i mean. he's got the talent to be great, but so does pretty much everybody out there. i haven't seen that drive from him. he's just happy to be a young, rich man; like ricky fowler and AK. I think camilo has IT, as far as the mental game goes, i just don't think he has as much talent. i've said it before and i'll say it again, i think matteo mannassero will be the next ''great'' golfer. after seeing him in a few tournaments, i can tell he has that intangible that rory is, at the moment, lacking.

What does villegas have? A 2 win season, a 1 win season, and a goofy pre-putt routine?

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Overrated? So this is what sports has become. At 21-years old, if you haven't won two majors or two world championships or two Heisman trophies you are overrated. Wow. How about we give the kid a few years to adjust to everything before we start chopping his legs out from under him, huh?

McIlroy, Ishikawa, Fowler, Mannassero, Molinari brothers, AK, etc. I think we should just sit back and enjoy what these kids bring to the Tour and quit trying to find the next Tiger or Jack. It's the same thing in the NBA. For 10 years people have been trying to find the next Michael Jordan. Quickly, we've missed out on some great players that have come through. A shame.

Callaway Org14 Sport w/ Clicgear Cart:

Callaway X 460 9* - Callaway X 15* - TaylorMade 19*/21* Hybrid - Callaway Diablo Forged 4-PW - Titleist 50/56/60 - Rife Cayman Brac - Bridgestone xFIXx/B330-RX - TRUE Linkswear Supporter!

Link to comment
Share on other sites


From what I've seen, I wish he would slow it down a notch on the green. I can't get a good read from my crystal ball on him being overrated or not.

Driver:  :nike:  Vapor Pro 9.5°  Wood & Hybrids : :nike:Covert Tour 13°, 18° & 21°
Irons & Wedges:
  :nike:  Covert 2.0  5i - AW,  :titleist:   56-14F,  60-07S
Putter:     :titleist:Newport Select
Balls:  :bridgestone: B330-RX

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I'd agree with a few of the other comments here, nobody ever said he's going to be another Tiger. But at his age, his finishes in the top tournaments would suggest he has the talent and mental makeup to go far in the game. His putting is his weakness and to be honest it hasn't improved much in the last year. Until he improves it a tad, it's always going to hold him back. I can see him having a Phil-like career all the same, 3 or 4 majors is a real possibility for him.
A great shot is when you go for it and pull it off. A smart shot is when you don't have the guts to try it. ~ Phil Mickelson.

 
Link to comment
Share on other sites


I don't think another "Tiger" or "Jack" will be seen with this current crop of young players. Mainly because they're all so darn good that they'll be beating one another at every other tournament. There is not going to be another 14 or 18 major winner out there because all these guys are too good. Not one stands out from the others, they're all incredibly talented and will ensure that competitive golf, at it's highest level, will be a ton of fun to watch for the next 15- 20 years.
Link to comment
Share on other sites


Someone who is 21 can't really be overrated. I hear commentators mention he has a nice swing, and great potential, but that doesn't make him overrated. As for his preparation for the Open, cmon, have you forgotten what it's like to be 20? Imagine being 20 with his life, potential and the fact he was in a position to order a Ferrari. I don't think we want to make snap judgments about a kid based on one days observations on probably one of the most exciting days of his life.

If in ten years he still has not won a major and isn't consistently contending in tournaments maybe then we can look back and say he was overrated, but right now it's way too early to label him that.

Joe Paradiso

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

He's young - his personality isn't fully formed. I don't think we can reasonably guess at his future. We know he has game now, of course, but who knows what he can do with that.

Driver: Nike Ignite 10.5 w/ Fujikura Motore F1
2H: King Cobra
4H: Nickent 4DX
5H: Adams A3
6I 7I 8I 9I PW: Mizuno mp-57Wedges: Mizuno MP T-10 50, 54, 58 Ball: random

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Overrated by who? Surely not by me but I do know of a lot of juniors look to him because they love his swing. I also don't think he has the fire or consistency to be great but who knows maybe a few years and he'll be on top of the leaderboard week in week out.

« Keith »

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-15%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope.
  • Posts

    • Day 76 - Pretty sore today, so I opted for putting over my Stack session. Primary focus was on starting line, as my putting has been pretty poor this year. 
    • Been a bit of delay in updates but I needed to come back east as my mom's health has taken a serious turn for the worse. In a 3 day span we learned she had a tumor to she has stage 4 cancer and stopped eating and drinking for the most part. She has had a rough 3 months but certainly didn't think we'd be at the point of setting up hospice for her. My mom was never into any sports really other than following the Red Sox because my dad was a big fan. She always cared about what we were involved in including asking about how golf went.  I have kept up with my 5 minutes of daily practice and will go to the gym here in NH tomorrow morning. Despite the somber nature of this trip my family has commented more than a few times about my weight loss so it's important to me to keep it up. I know my mom always wanted us happy in whatever we did so I'll continue with my fitness journey keeping that in mind. 
    • Day 109- Putting drills on a putting green for 20 minutes. 
    • Day 252: did a stack session. Did some slow rehearsal swings during breaks. 
    • Day 82: 3/18/24 Tried a Stack session but could not certify my warmup. Finished with indoor chips and putting. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...