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http://www.pgatour.com/2011/r/05/28/female-qualifier.ap/index.html

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Canada's Isabelle Beisiegel has become the first female golfer to earn a playing card on a men's professional tour.

The 32-year-old Montreal native finished equal ninth Friday in the Canadian Professional Golf Tour's Spring Qualifying School to take one of the last two nonexempt spots.

Beisiegel had a 4-under 68 in the third round, then closed with a 75 in rainy conditions to finish at 8-over 296. She opened with rounds of 75 and 78.

"I still can't believe it. It's a little overwhelming," Beisiegel said. "I went into today just trying not to get ahead of myself. I focused on thinking about where I was and not what could happen. I was assured in the fact that no matter what happened it was going to be OK."

Somewhere, a crazy person who calls himself "cockles" is having a conniption right about now.

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Stretch Super Member

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Good for her. I've never liked the "stunt casting" model of parachuting famous (Sorenstam) or promising (Wie) women into mens events just to see what will happen. But any woman with the game to earn her way in just the same as the guys she's competing against, has every right to be there.

Stretch.

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B-Con Great Member

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I wonder if she intends to compete regularly. [quote name="iacas" url="/forum/thread/46973/woman-qualifies-for-men-s-tour#post_608712"]<

Somewhere, a crazy person who calls himself "cockles" is having a conniption right about now.

[/quote] "Calls himself 'cockles'"? I don't get the reference...

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I agree with Stretch, good for her. It will be interesting to see how she fares.

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Hey, if you qualify more power to you, whoever you are. I would love to see her stripe it.

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  B-Con said:
Originally Posted by B-Con

"Calls himself 'cockles'"? I don't get the reference...

Some o ne who calls himself that re-sufaces every few months to spam my YouTube videos, Golf Evolution's YouTube videos, etc. He's super-irate at the fact that the PGA Tour (and most other predominantly male tours) don't have any rules that exclude women. He thinks that because women can play on the PGA Tour, that men should be able to play on the LPGA Tour... and he behaves like he's 12 in his constant harassing comments. It's gotten to the point now where it's far more comical than anything else.

Nobody respond to this... it's off-topic at best.

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Hey, if you qualify more power to you, whoever you are. I would love to see her stripe it.


That's my feeling too.

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congratulations to her for being able to qualify for a mens tour, but in my opinion it wont last very long, the women just dont have the game to play with the men


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  Ryan Williams said:
Originally Posted by Ryan Williams

congratulations to her for being able to qualify for a mens tour, but in my opinion it wont last very long, the women just dont have the game to play with the men



If she was able to get her tour card through qualification, she must have beaten a hell of a lot of men on her way there. Granted, the Canadian Tour doesn't exactly command the world's best, but it's still a pretty big deal.

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  Ryan Williams said:

congratulations to her for being able to qualify for a mens tour, but in my opinion it wont last very long, the women just dont have the game to play with the men

Wouldn't she have to make the top 125 on the money list to keep from having to re-qualify next year? I'd assume that a lot of nobodies earn cards and then can't compete well enough and fall out after a short career. Even if she did the same, that's saying a lot. She'd have to outplay a lot of men just to keep her card. It'll be interesting to see how well and where she competes. I think a lot of TOUR hopefuls this year got their egos bruised a little. :-P

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If women can compete on the men's tour, why is it men can't compete on the women's tour?

I genuinely don't care either way though...

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  Whiskey84 said:
Originally Posted by Whiskey84

If women can compete on the men's tour, why is it men can't compete on the women's tour?


Seriously?

For the same reason a guy who is 30 can't join the Champions Tour or play in the U.S. Junior Amateur. The PGA Tour doesn't say you must be a man. The LPGA Tour requires its contestants to be women.

Simple as that. Is this really hard to grasp? Every time this topic comes up someone says men should be able to play on the LPGA Tour.

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  Whiskey84 said:

If women can compete on the men's tour, why is it men can't compete on the women's tour?

I genuinely don't care either way though...

It's fairly common in golf to be allowed to attempt to move UP to a higher level of competition. Amateurs play in many professional events, but we'd never let a professional play in an amateur event. It's the same idea.

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  Whiskey84 said:
Originally Posted by Whiskey84

If women can compete on the men's tour, why is it men can't compete on the women's tour?



False logic at its best.  You are assuming equal footing, when--i know some feminists hate to admit it--men and women are NOT equal especially when it comes to sports.  I am not saying men are better.  I am just saying they are not the same.  So don't spam me.

But in golf Shindig is absolutely right.

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