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By billchao ·
We’re discussing rules. By definition, it’s going to involve semantics. You hit your ball in a bunker, which under normal conditions, you’d have a bunker lie. If you declare your ball unplayable, you would be allowed to drop outside of the bunker for two penalty strokes. You happened to hit it under water in said bunker due to ACC. Because of the ACC, your relief option outside of the bunker could be taken for only one penalty shot. Again, the stroke is added because you would have changed your lie from from a bunker to the general area. And I would make the same argument, but again, that’s on the committee for not doing their job and marking it as GUR and not at the discretion of each individual golfer. At this point all I can gather is that you don’t like the particular situation you found yourself in, but shit happens. We’ve all been there one way or another. -
By DaveP043 ·
Here's the thing, the Rules are fine here, the problem is at the local Committee (or lack of Committee) level. The basic Rule is appropriate for most Temporary Water in a Bunker situations. Indeed, it offers a bit more flexibility than the Rule for Temporary Water in the General Area offers, in that you're allowed to find the Point of Maximum Available Relief, instead of requiring Complete Relief. And for more unusual circumstances, the Rules offer an alternative in for form of a Model Local Rule. They don't want every single player to have the authority to claim "I have no possible relief in this bunker, I'll just take it out for free", they want that authority to be at a higher level. I speak only for myself, but the more I learn about the Rules, the more I respect the way they've been put together, and the consistency of concepts throughout. Its easy to single out one rule in isolation that you dislike, but when you see how the rules fit together as a whole things often make a lot more sense. No doubt, Rules should be reviewed and improved, really smart people are continually doing just that, looking for cracks and loopholes. But the changes that actually happen are really tested to see if they actually improve things, change for the sake of change just isn't going to happen. -
By GolfLug ·
Wordle 1,052 6/6 ⬜⬜🟨🟨⬜ ⬜⬜🟩⬜🟩 ⬜⬜🟩⬜🟩 🟩🟩🟩⬜🟩 🟩🟩🟩⬜🟩 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 I hear y'all. Could easily have been a birdie or par at worst. -
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By DeadMan ·
Are you on the app or on the website? On the website, if you go to the performance tab, you can navigate with the side menu to see more detailed information. On those pages, you can switch between strokes gained and standard stats. You can see things like strokes gained from 50-100, 100-150, etc., strokes gained on lengths of putts. You can switch to standard information and see make rates on putt lengths. There's a good amount there to shape your practice. I don't use the app for this, so I can't help with that. -
By klineka ·
Temporary grandstands are in the general area though, a bunker is not so your relief options are different. I don't really understand what is so difficult about this. You should be more upset with whoever organizes/runs your league for not implementing GUR, not the rule itself. Especially since this is a league and if it's at the same course every time it's likely that this isn't the first time the bunker has filled up completely with water.
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