2013 Players at TPC Sawgrass, Tiger and Sergio Feud Discussion Thread

[RonTheSavage]

Originally Posted by noSnowman

How much cents does that make ? About as bright as a burnt out light bulb. How are they quicken pace of play they were dead last no one to hold up..I am sure the crowd goes wild when you go fore the par 5 in 4 tiger knew exactly what he was doing ...creating a stir. He knew Sergio had yet to hit. This is different and u know it

I just laughed out loud at my desk, this is awesome!

[Golfingdad]

Originally Posted by boogielicious

We didn't use that mnemonic. We used Oscar Had A Heap Of Apples. It is burned into my brain.

And yes, I had to look up how to spell mnemonic.

Originally Posted by David in FL

Some Old Horses Chew Apples Happily Throughout Old Age

I like these.  I guess whatever works. :)  My teacher said that soh-cah-toa was the name of a famous old indian, or something like that.

Originally Posted by Stretch

Victorious Tiger Woods: 'I Hit The Ball Well, My Life Is A Dark And Twisted Struggle, And I Made Some Good Putts'

http://www.theonion.com/articles/victorious-tiger-woods-i-hit-the-ball-well-my-life,32437/

Yes, that story is hilarious!  (Which is why I posted it on the last page)

[Ernest Jones]

Originally Posted by Golfingdad

But Brandon, you didn't answer the (simple) question ...

How much cents does that make?!?!?!

Utter non cents.

[Ole_Tom_Morris]

Well, well. Tiger DID NOT lie, exactly. Or more accurately only partly. The new wrinkle: http://jacksonville.com/sports/golf/2013-05-14/story/tiger-lied-not-so-fast-say-marshals-who-were-there

From the Jacksonville newspaper interview with the 2 marshalls on the scene, not the one who talked to Sports Illustrated:

"...Not so fast, say Brian Nedrich of Fleming Island and Lance Paczkowski of St. Augustine, who said they were within 10 to 12 yards of Woods.

"Both said the claims there was no communication between Woods and volunteers are wrong and said that Woods was only mistaken about the sequence of events." Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/sports/golf/2013-05-14/story/tiger-lied-not-so-fast-say-marshals-who-were-there#ixzz2TTiZnsL5

So Tiger was right about what the marshall said. He was wrong that it influenced what he did, because he'd already pulled his club and the crowd had already gotten noisy.

Question: how slow is Sergio these days? Used to be he'd take the longest time to hit with interminable waggling which would drive those he played with nuts. Is he better? Did frustration over the time Sergio takes come into this?

[Stretch]

Originally Posted by Golfingdad

Yes, that story is hilarious!  (Which is why I posted it on the last page)

Oops. It was new to me. Got to admit I haven't exactly been closely following this thread ...

[Golfingdad]

Originally Posted by Stretch

Oops. It was new to me. Got to admit I haven't exactly been closely following this thread ...

No worries ... just messing with you.  Lord knows I don't go back and read old pages of threads before I post either. :)

[Kieran123]

In the below video ( starting at 5 seconds ) we can clearly see how long Sergio had to step back but continued anyway, hits a bad shot, then uses the noise as an excuse.

[Rick Martin]

Video story from Golf Channel about what goes into network's coverage of a golf tournament. Found it to be very interesting about what goes on behind the scenes.

http://www.golfchannel.com/media/golf-central-players-technology-feature/?cid=facebook_gc_v_behindthescenesgcnbcplayersisland_051613

[Golfingdad]

Originally Posted by Kieran123

In the below video ( starting at 5 seconds ) we can clearly see how long Sergio had to step back but continued anyway, hits a bad shot, then uses the noise as an excuse.

I am watching/listening on my computer at work, so maybe that's the problem, but I don't hear anything over the CNN reporter (I like the guy, but I'm drawing a blank on his name right now).  I seem to remember on Saturday night - when I saw this same split screen without the narration - that there was a bit of a pause between the moment he pulls the club and when it just goes from murmurs to cheers.

Not really trying to fan the flames and drag out the argument, just trying to rebut that this really provides evidence of anything. ;)

[bplewis24]

I'm still trying to figure out why that story was on CNN.

[newtogolf]

Originally Posted by bplewis24

I'm still trying to figure out why that story was on CNN.

Because Tiger was involved.  If it was Sergio and anyone else it would be a non-story.

[SoundandFury]

I'm still trying to figure out why that story was on CNN.

+1

[zipazoid]

...and just when you though you've heard the last of this...WRONG! -

http://news.yahoo.com/garcia-woods-shots-other-193109573.html

Garcia, Woods take their shots at each other

Associated Press – 1 hr 39 mins ago

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  Associated Press/File - FILE - At left, in a May 5, 2013 file photo, Sergio Garcia grimaces during The Players Championshop golf tournament in Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla. At right, in a March 25, 2013 file photo, … more

VIRGINIA WATER, England (AP) — Tiger Woods and Sergio Garcia don't like each other, and they're making no effort to disguise their feelings.

The verbal feuding began May 11 during the third round of The Players Championship . It resumed this week on both sides of the Atlantic when Woods offered a one-word answer if he thought about contacting Garcia to put the matter to rest.

"No," he replied with a tight smile.

Garcia fired back at a sponsor function outside London.

"He called me a whiner. That's probably right," he told reporters. "It's also probably the first thing he's told you guys that's true in 15 years. I know what he is like. You guys are finding out."

Garcia tried to tone down the barbs Tuesday at the BMW Championship when asked about the spat.

"I can't like everybody and there's people that you connect with and there's people that you don't," Garcia said at Wentworth. "He doesn't need me in his life, I don't need him in mine and let's move on and keep doing what we're doing. There's never really been a true connection I would have with maybe Luke (Donald) or Adam Scott or some of the other guys that I get along with well.

"I think we should kind of move on and forget — well, it will be difficult to forget — but kind of move on about what happened."

Disputes among golfers are nothing new, though it's rare for two high-profile players to go at each other through the media.

The animosity between them goes as far back as 2000, when Garcia beat Woods in the Monday night exhibition "Battle at Bighorn" and celebrated as if he had won something much more important. Two years later in the U.S. Open at Bethpage Black, where Woods won wire-to-wire, Garcia complained that the second round should have been halted because of rain and that "if Tiger Woods would have been out there, it would have been called."

The latest chapter took place on the second fairway at the TPC Sawgrass in the third round, when Garcia had a one-shot lead. He was preparing to play his second shot on the par 5 from the fairway when he was disrupted by cheers from the gallery around Woods deep in the trees. Woods was about 50 yards away and couldn't see the Spaniard. The crowd burst into cheers when Woods took a 5-wood from his bag to play a risky shot through a gap in the trees.

During a storm delay, Garcia suggested in a TV interview that Woods could have kept the crowd from cheering if he had been paying closer attention. Later that evening, Woods said he understood from marshals that Garcia had already hit.

"Not real surprising that he's complaining about something," Woods added, which only fired up the Spaniard.

Garcia said the next day to Sky Sports, "He's not the nicest guy on tour."

Woods wound up winning The Players Championship, improving his record to 6-0 when he plays with Garcia in the final group on the weekend.

Woods was at media day Monday for the AT&T; National, where he is the defending champion, when he received the final question about Garcia and gave the one-word answer. Garcia offered a more detailed response when asked in England if he would ever call Woods.

"First of all, I don't have his number," Garcia said. "And secondly, I did nothing wrong and don't have anything to say to him. And he wouldn't pick up the phone, anyway."

Garcia conceded their dislike for each other has been "going on for a long time."

"The problem is, I'm one of the guys that has to say something," Garcia said. "A lot of people think about it, but don't want to say anything. He can and will beat me a lot of times, but is not going to step on me. I'm not afraid of him."

Woods has competed against more than 50 players in match play since 1997, though he has never played Garcia. The Spaniard was asked he would like to face Woods in the Ryder Cup next year at Gleneagles.

"It's great, and it is what it is, and it doesn't mean I cannot play with him," Garcia replied. "It's just another player — obviously, a good player. It's just when I'm playing with someone I enjoy, there's a bit more talking going around, and you're playing with someone that you don't fancy as much, you're just a little bit quiet."

[bplewis24]

Originally Posted by zipazoid

"He called me a whiner. That's probably right," he told reporters. "It's also probably the first thing he's told you guys that's true in 15 years..."

Lol, that was a good'n.

[jetsknicks1]

Just another example of the media trying to drum up something to get people to watch. This was a dead issue until they brought it up again.

[newtogolf]

This is more press than Sergio has had in years, he probably doesn't want it to end.

[minitour]

Tiger said one word and the media blows it up? He's probably as tired of hearing about it as I am. Time to move on.

[zipazoid]

Originally Posted by minitour

Tiger said one word and the media blows it up? He's probably as tired of hearing about it as I am. Time to move on.

Well yeah. Sergio's 'fried chicken' remarks were from last year, and obviously they weren't widely reported at that time (unlike Stevie's 'black arse' comment), but with this latest dust-up they went back & found Sergio's quote. Media blowup or media research? In the eye of the beholder I guess, but that's what the media does - this is a juicy story of two talented rival athletes with one having a hissy so it makes sense in the media's world to go back & find if Sergio said things in the past about Tiger. And I would assume they also did the same with Tiger. But Tiger doesn't divulge much - he has mastered the one-word answer which gets right to the point.

So is it time to move on? It will be when the media gets tired of the story or when something else happens. This is their cause du jour.