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It's more about what type of weather than the temp here. It can be 50 and sunny and shorts are fine but 50 and damp feels colder. It was 39 when I left this AM and I have shorts on but it's a sunny day. Even in the winter summer weight golf pants are usually enough on days with nice enough weather to golf.

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I would wear shorts all the time if the weather cooperated.

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Like most others, I dress for the weather. If the temps are 70 degrees plus, I'm wearing shorts. Below 70, I'll go with the pants... The pants do look better though so if I can wear them comfortably without getting warm then I will. If the morning temps are going to be mid 60's with highs in the mid 70's, I will wear pants.

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I don't wear shorts at all, never been a big shorts wearer because I have super skinny legs *big shock there* and since my accident and subsequent recovery with needing to wear a brace on my foot/leg I just would rather not have to answer the inevitable questions about it.

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I'm the old guy you all see on the course who is wearing long pants and a wide-brim straw hat. Had a malignant melanoma removed from my forehead two years ago. I'll still wear short sleeves, but everything else I try to keep covered up. I love chasing that white ball too much to quit.

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If it's not going to be rainy and/or windy, I'll wear shorts as long as the high temperature will be at least 53-55*F. Shorts are much more comfortable for me than pants - much cooler and less sweaty, less restrictive. I don't happen to like the feel of any sort of pants - lightweight or not - on my legs when it's hot. To whatever extent they block the hot sun, that is usually outweighed by the extent that they block the breeze and just feel hotter to me. I also don't bother with sunscreen on my legs when I play golf, although I apply it quite generously to my face, arms and neck. I've got kind of hairy legs that my wife teases me insulates me from the cold and shields me from the sun - there may be some truth in that, as I'm comfortable in shorts about 10* cooler than most people and never get sunburned legs and they don't even tan very much. I also play most of my golf these days from a cart, so I'm often in the shade. If I'm spending the afternoon at the pool or on a beach, I'll put sunscreen on the legs and particularly the ankles and tops of feet, but there is no real need for sunscreen on my legs that I can discern when I play golf. I understand and don't really have a problem with a course/club pro wearing pants - it's part of an uniform and shows professionalism and attention to detail, much as one expects one's doctor or lawyer to wear a tie even when there is no practical purpose for wearing one. However, I think it's silly and old-fashioned to require tour pros to wear pants regardless of the weather - why not go back to the dawn of the sport and require jackets and ties while you're at it?. Let them be grown ups and decide for themselves what they want to wear or at least make shorts an option if the heat index is over 85*F. At the moment I can't think of any other sport that has a uniform that is so unathletic - even equestrian outfits are more purpose-built for their sport than requiring golfers to wear pants while competing at the highest levels. I have to laugh at all of the people I've seen on really hot days sweating through pants on a golf course, which looks ridiculous. I understand the old guys ashamed of really scrawny legs or the people with some genuine skin concerns and medical issues, but I suspect that they're in the minority. Most people wearing pants on the golf course when it's clearly shorts weather are doing so for one of two similar reasons: 1) "It's a matter of decorum!" - somehow wearing a nice pair of shorts isn't showing the game enough "respect" (these same guys somehow think it makes them look classier if they refer to Bobby Jones or Ben Hogan as "MISTER Jones" or "MISTER Hogan" ); and/or 2) because they want to emulate the tour pros and have everyone perceive them as a super-duper-serious golfer who dresses just like his favorite PGA player. Sorry, but business casual attire neither looks nor feels comfortable while engaged in an athletic activity on a hot day and I really don't feel any need to dress like my heroes - I'll leave that to 11 year-old girls who want to dress like Katy Perry or Selena Gomez. For those claiming they don't find shorts comfortable, I think that's analogous to someone saying that after working for hours out in the yard on a hot day, they'd rather have a glass of warm water than a tall glass of icy, fresh-squeezed lemonade. The bottom line is that when the thermometer is hitting over 85*, most guys wearing pants on a golf course, when it's not part of a formal or semi-formal golf employment-related dress code, are doing it because they are pretentious. I'm anticipating that some people will retort "Why do you care?" My response: "Why do you dislike the Judge Smails character in Caddyshack?" Same reason.
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I have to laugh at all of the people I've seen on really hot days sweating through pants on a golf course, which looks ridiculous. I understand the old guys ashamed of really scrawny legs or the people with some genuine skin concerns and medical issues, but I suspect that they're in the minority. Most people wearing pants on the golf course when it's clearly shorts weather are doing so for one of two similar reasons: 1) "It's a matter of decorum!" - somehow wearing a nice pair of shorts isn't showing the game enough "respect" (these same guys somehow think it makes them look classier if they refer to Bobby Jones or Ben Hogan as "MISTER Jones" or "MISTER Hogan" ); and/or 2) because they want to emulate the tour pros and have everyone perceive them as a super-duper-serious golfer who dresses just like his favorite PGA player. Sorry, but business casual attire neither looks nor feels comfortable while engaged in an athletic activity on a hot day and I really don't feel any need to dress like my heros - I'll leave that to 11 year-old girls who want to dress like Katy Perry or Selena Gomez.

For those claiming they don't find shorts comfortable, I think that's analogous to someone saying that after working for hours out in the yard on a hot day, they'd rather have a glass of warm water than a tall glass of icy, fresh-squeezed lemonade.

The bottom line is that when the thermometer is hitting over 85*, most guys wearing pants on a golf course, when it's not part of a formal or semi-formal golf employment-related dress code, are doing it because they are pretentious.

I'm anticipating that some people will retort "Why do you care?" My response: "Why do you dislike the Judge Smails character in Caddyshack?" Same reason.

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to start explaining to me my reasons for doing, or not doing, something. Didn't have to wait long, I should have started an over/under on it. I posted my reasons and none of them had anything to do with what pros are doing, but I'm glad you're around to tell me that I like lemonade more than water.

Hey, while you're at it, I can't decide on salmon or ham for dinner, could you tell which I prefer please? Thanks, you truly are wis.

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Trying to settle an argument with golf buddy.  In sunny and humid Florida, I wear shorts more often than not.  Other guy says we should always wear slacks, I say dress comfortable and nice.  Do most prefer shorts or slacks when playing a casual round?

Weather dependent. I almost always wear shorts, but I'll be wearing slacks this afternoon. Finally got a little nippy here in Philly.

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Sorry, my BS detector was going off almost as strongly in this thread as in the "I Hate Tiger" threads when every last person denies that race has anything to do with why they can't stand that damn Tiger (definitely not MISTER Woods). Of course no one is going to admit that he's a pretentious twit who just wants to play dress-up when he's out for a round. Of course every last one of you pants-no-matter-how-hot guys has a legitimate reason unrelated to keeping up appearances. But hey, it's a free country. Say what you want if it makes you feel better. And if the course allows it, wear what you want. This thread almost makes me want to go buy a black Dale Earnhardt, Sr. wifebeater and take a pair of scissors to an old pair of jeans for my next golf outing. Maybe I'll cut 'em high enough to have to use sunscreen on my legs after all. Ouch. P.S. My moniker here has to do with geography (i.e. the Badger State), not the adjective "wise." It was coincidental that it had a bit of a double entendre effect with the admins tacking on the Wise Guy photo.

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I was wondering how long it would take for someone to start explaining to me my reasons for doing, or not doing, something. Didn't have to wait long, I should have started an over/under on it. I posted my reasons and none of them had anything to do with what pros are doing, but I'm glad you're around to tell me that I like lemonade more than water.

Hey, while you're at it, I can't decide on salmon or ham for dinner, could you tell which I prefer please? Thanks, you truly are wis.

LOL.

Sorry, my BS detector was going off almost as strongly in this thread as in the "I Hate Tiger" threads when every last person denies that race has anything to do with why they can't stand that damn Tiger (definitely not MISTER Woods).

Of course no one is going to admit that he's a pretentious twit who just wants to play dress-up when he's out for a round. Of course every last one of you pants-no-matter-how-hot guys has a legitimate reason unrelated to keeping up appearances.

But hey, it's a free country. Say what you want if it makes you feel better. And if the course allows it, wear what you want.

This thread almost makes me want to go buy a black Dale Earnhardt, Sr. wifebeater and take a pair of scissors to an old pair of jeans for my next golf outing. Maybe I'll cut 'em high enough to have to use sunscreen on my legs after all. Ouch.

P.S. My moniker here has to do with geography (i.e. the Badger State), not the adjective "wise." It was coincidental that it had a bit of a double entendre effect with the admins tacking on the Wise Guy photo.

Do you ever get spittle on your chin when you post? You seem pretty angry. Maybe it's because of the constant ringing from the BS detector in your head? Hey, maybe you're keeping the BS detector in your head too close to the...well...never mind.

No Smiley for you and your stupid shorts.

PS. Anyone who doesn't like Tiger is a racist??? Really? That's some rock solid logic right there.

Yours in earnest, Jason.
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If it's not going to be rainy and/or windy, I'll wear shorts as long as the high temperature will be at least 53-55*F. Shorts are much more comfortable for me than pants - much cooler and less sweaty, less restrictive. I don't happen to like the feel of any sort of pants - lightweight or not - on my legs when it's hot. To whatever extent they block the hot sun, that is usually outweighed by the extent that they block the breeze and just feel hotter to me. I also don't bother with sunscreen on my legs when I play golf, although I apply it quite generously to my face, arms and neck. I've got kind of hairy legs that my wife teases me insulates me from the cold and shields me from the sun - there may be some truth in that, as I'm comfortable in shorts about 10* cooler than most people and never get sunburned legs and they don't even tan very much. I also play most of my golf these days from a cart, so I'm often in the shade. If I'm spending the afternoon at the pool or on a beach, I'll put sunscreen on the legs and particularly the ankles and tops of feet, but there is no real need for sunscreen on my legs that I can discern when I play golf. I understand and don't really have a problem with a course/club pro wearing pants - it's part of an uniform and shows professionalism and attention to detail, much as one expects one's doctor or lawyer to wear a tie even when there is no practical purpose for wearing one. However, I think it's silly and old-fashioned to require tour pros to wear pants regardless of the weather - why not go back to the dawn of the sport and require jackets and ties while you're at it?. Let them be grown ups and decide for themselves what they want to wear or at least make shorts an option if the heat index is over 85*F. At the moment I can't think of any other sport that has a uniform that is so unathletic - even equestrian outfits are more purpose-built for their sport than requiring golfers to wear pants while competing at the highest levels. I have to laugh at all of the people I've seen on really hot days sweating through pants on a golf course, which looks ridiculous. I understand the old guys ashamed of really scrawny legs or the people with some genuine skin concerns and medical issues, but I suspect that they're in the minority. Most people wearing pants on the golf course when it's clearly shorts weather are doing so for one of two similar reasons: 1) "It's a matter of decorum!" - somehow wearing a nice pair of shorts isn't showing the game enough "respect" (these same guys somehow think it makes them look classier if they refer to Bobby Jones or Ben Hogan as "MISTER Jones" or "MISTER Hogan" ); and/or 2) because they want to emulate the tour pros and have everyone perceive them as a super-duper-serious golfer who dresses just like his favorite PGA player. Sorry, but business casual attire neither looks nor feels comfortable while engaged in an athletic activity on a hot day and I really don't feel any need to dress like my heroes - I'll leave that to 11 year-old girls who want to dress like Katy Perry or Selena Gomez. For those claiming they don't find shorts comfortable, I think that's analogous to someone saying that after working for hours out in the yard on a hot day, they'd rather have a glass of warm water than a tall glass of icy, fresh-squeezed lemonade. The bottom line is that when the thermometer is hitting over 85*, most guys wearing pants on a golf course, when it's not part of a formal or semi-formal golf employment-related dress code, are doing it because they are pretentious. I'm anticipating that some people will retort "Why do you care?" My response: "Why do you dislike the Judge Smails character in Caddyshack?" Same reason.

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Come on guys, lets get back on topic.

I prefer to wear pants while I play.  And for only one reason:  I am a pretentious twit who just wants to play dress-up when I'm out for a round.

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Come on guys, lets get back on topic. I prefer to wear pants while I play.  And for only one reason:  I am a pretentious twit who just wants to play dress-up when I'm out for a round.

I wear pants because it gets wisguy all wound up, kinda feels like I have superpowers. :-P I think I'll get a big staff bag with my name on it and I'll keep extra pants in it. :w00t:

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Personally, if I have to wear long pants, I prefer jeans.  At least that way I avoid being tagged as pretentious. :smartass:

I do agree with much of Wisguy's rant though.  And I do wear jeans on courses where they are allowed.  I've practically lived in them in cooler weather since I was in grade school, so for me they just feel right.  The arguments that they are uncomfortable are pure bunk.

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Personally, if I have to wear long pants, I prefer jeans.  At least that way I avoid being tagged as pretentious.  :smartass: I do agree with much of Wisguy's rant though.  And I do wear jeans on courses where they are allowed.  I've practically lived in them in cooler weather since I was in grade school, so for me they just feel right.  The arguments that they are uncomfortable are pure bunk.

I wear jeans a lot too, definitely comfortable but I'm not sure I'd enjoy wearing them to golf but I guess that would depend on the weather. Humid, no way but fall golf, yes. I Iike a light weight pair for golf.

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Here in San Antonio it's ridiculously hot for a large portion of the year .. so I wear shorts.  In the dead of summer, I wear Tevas, too.  It's just too hot for anything more.  When it's cold, obviously, I wear pants.

I have seen people in the dead of summer, 100+ heat, wearing pants, though.  That just seems crazy to me.  If it wasn't for January and February, I probably wouldn't even own pants, lol.

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Personally, if I have to wear long pants, I prefer jeans.  At least that way I avoid being tagged as pretentious.  :smartass: I do agree with much of Wisguy's rant though.  And I do wear jeans on courses where they are allowed.  I've practically lived in them in cooler weather since I was in grade school, so for me they just feel right.  The arguments that they are uncomfortable are pure bunk.

Personal preference. I only wear jeans from November through mid-March anyway. And I would never wear them playing golf because they are too stiff and it's tough to get things in and out of my pocket, like tees, markers, etc.

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    • I'm pretty good at picking targets with mid/long irons in hand, but yes lately I have been getting more aggressive than I should be, especially from 100-150. The 50-100 deficiency is mainly distance control, working on that mechanically with Evolvr, but the 100-150 is definitely a result of poor targets.  6,7,8 iron in my hand I have no problem aiming away from trouble/the flag, hitting a very committed shot to my target, but give me PW, GW, and some reason I think I need to go right at it (even though I know I shouldn't). Like here from my last round. 175 left on a short par 5 to a back right flag. Water short right and bunker long. Perfectly fine lie in sparse rough, between the jumper and downwind playing for about 10yds of help. I knew to not aim at the flag here, aimed 40 feet left of it, hit my 165 shot exactly where I was looking, easy 2 putt birdie.   But then there's this one. I had 120 left from the fairway to a semi-tucked front left flag. Not a ton of trouble around the green but the left and back rough does fall off steeper than short/right rough. For some reason I aimed right at this flag with my 120yd shot, hit it the exact proper distance but pulled it 5yds left and had a tough short sided chip. Did all I could to chip it to 8 feet and missed the putt for a bad bogey. Had I aimed directly at the middle of the green maybe 5yds right of the flag, a perfectly straight shot leaves me 20 feet tops for birdie and that same pulled shot that I hit would have left me very close to the hole.    So yeah I think the 50-100 is distance control and the 100-150 is absolutely picking better targets. I have good feels and am strong with distance control on those I just need to allow for a bigger dispersion.    This view is helpful. For the Under 25yds my proximity is almost double from the rough vs the fairway which reinforces that biggest weakness right now being inside 25yds from the rough. But then interestingly enough in the 25-50yds I'm almost equal proximity from fairway and rough, so it looks like I need to work on under 25yds from the rough and then 25-50 from the fairway. The bunker categories are only 1 attempt each so not worried about those.   Thanks as always for the insight, it's been helpful. I'm really liking ShotScope so far.
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    • Yea it is. A gave my brother a set of cobra irons at least a decade old and he walked away with 29 dollars worth of skin money the other day. 
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