Tiger Woods Master Catch-All Discussion

[iacas]

So weird.

[boogielicious]

6 minutes ago, iacas said:

So weird.

Agree. 

[JetFan1983]

Happy April Fool's Day! 😅

Me after laughing for a bit about the joke:

 

[iacas]

When you’ve resorted to this type of stuff, hang ‘em up.

[JetFan1983]

2 hours ago, iacas said:

When you’ve resorted to this type of stuff, hang ‘em up.

I hate that I agree with this. But the guy is like a Ferrari with four flat tires trying to go 200 mph. Bad things can only come from that.

He turns 50 on December 30th. I wonder how long Golf Cart Tiger lasts out there. 

[iacas]

[Ty_Webb]

Thank you for sharing that. He was quite good wasn't he? I was curious, so took a look. He played 19 PGA Tour stroke play events in 2000. He was 263 under par (they did point that out at the end of the video). If you look at each event he played in and take the best score in each event for a player not called Tiger Woods, that combined field score was -259. So he beat the field - where the field resets every week - over the course of an entire season. That's mind blowing.

[colin007]

I'm think taking this bet 

 

[ChetlovesMer]

3 minutes ago, colin007 said:

I'm think taking this bet 

 

I'll take the million bucks. 

Easy squeezy. No risk. 

[iacas]

Just tell Tiger you'll give him $10M if he lets you beat him on one hole. Hell, give him $25M.

[ChetlovesMer]

6 hours ago, iacas said:

Just tell Tiger you'll give him $10M if he lets you beat him on one hole. Hell, give him $25M.

Ha ha ha... that's brilliant. 

[Ty_Webb]

On 4/28/2025 at 8:36 PM, colin007 said:

I'm think taking this bet 

 

That's a tough one - assuming we exclude the possibility of bribing him to let you win a hole, it's going to be non-trivial. That said, prime Tiger did make bogeys (even doubles and triples - he made both in the 2000 US Open I think), but on the other hand, the holes he's doing that on are holes that I would also struggle on. I'd imagine I could tie him on quite a few holes, but beating him would take making a par on a very difficult hole at the right time or making a birdie when he doesn't.

72 holes on the courses I play, I average probably about 6-7 birdies, 45-50 pars, 15-20 bogeys and 2-3 doubles in tournaments. So on the courses he was playing in his prime, that might be 3 birdies, 35-40 pars, 20-25 bogeys, 7-10 doubles - something like that. He's making 1 eagle, 15-20 birdies, 45-50 pars, 3-4 bogeys and maybe 1 double if I'm lucky. Given that my birdies are almost certainly coming on holes that he birdies and his bogeys are coming on the holes I bogey, so to win I have to match either a par to his bogey, a birdie to his par, or get lucky and not match his double. I'm not sure I like my odds. With the enormous swings in the prize vs the penalty, I would probably take the $1mm. 

Having said that, it would depend where we were playing. US Open conditions on a US Open course then I'm at best 50/50 to win one. If it's Bethpage yellow, then my birdies count goes up (his would too, but not by as much), so my odds would be much better. $100mm would be nice but no thanks to a year in jail. Probably still not taking the bet.

[GolfLug]

On 4/28/2025 at 8:36 PM, colin007 said:

I'm think taking this bet 

 

Do I get strokes?..😂 

[Carl3]

On 4/28/2025 at 8:36 PM, colin007 said:

I'm think taking this bet 

 

Lou Stagner evaluated with in a thread on X the other day. His conclusion with some math to back it up: A 10 handicap would have a 12% chance of beating Tiger on a single hole in a round at his prime under tournament conditions. I find it hard to believe, but Lou seems to know what he is talking about.

[saevel25]

41 minutes ago, Carl3 said:

A 10 handicap would have a 12% chance of beating Tiger on a single hole in a round at his prime under tournament conditions. I find it hard to believe, but Lou seems to know what he is talking about.

I don’t. What if a 10 handicap makes three birdies in a round. Just caught a heater. Not that uncommon. Then Tiger would have to match. 

[Carl3]

4 hours ago, saevel25 said:

I don’t. What if a 10 handicap makes three birdies in a round. Just caught a heater. Not that uncommon. Then Tiger would have to match. 

I can't recall ever seeing a 10 HI get more than one birdie in a round, but I know they exist. I would not say that this would be the typical 10 handicapper. Now the comparison was from the championship tees under tournament conditions not the 6,000-yard public course. 

[saevel25]

46 minutes ago, Carl3 said:

I can't recall ever seeing a 10 HI get more than one birdie in a round, but I know they exist. I would not say that this would be the typical 10 handicapper. Now the comparison was from the championship tees under tournament conditions not the 6,000-yard public course. 

He is saying 12% chance, so 12 out of 100 would beat tiger on one hole in an 18 hole round.

That would be 1800 holes played. What if Tiger hits a ball OB? The odds in that moment jump to better that 50/50.

 

[Ty_Webb]

8 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

He is saying 12% chance, so 12 out of 100 would beat tiger on one hole in an 18 hole round.

That would be 1800 holes played. What if Tiger hits a ball OB? The odds in that moment jump to better that 50/50.

 

72 holes, not 18 holes. 

 

Edit - the original question was 72 holes, but Stagner apparently said in one round - I find it hard to believe that a 10 handicap would beat Tiger on one hole out of 18, 12% of the time. That's 40% of the time over four rounds. Surprisingly high. I wonder if the 12% is for four rounds - that would sit more closely with my "hmm" factor.

Edited May 1, 2025 by Ty_Webb