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Thanks. I think. :) We wanted to hammer that part home, but at the end of the day it's awfully simple.

Golf is hard.

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After reading the chapter on shot zones, I started wondering how I can go about getting this done.

I asked the pro at the course where I joined the men's club if they had a place where I could hit a bunch of balls and he said go ahead in the lessons area  (a huge fairway like area). So I have a place but not sure just how to go about it as far as measuring it all out. It sure seems like maybe finding a place with a flight scope might be a lot easier.

I am open to any suggestions.

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After reading the chapter on shot zones, I started wondering how I can go about getting this done.

I asked the pro at the course where I joined the men's club if they had a place where I could hit a bunch of balls and he said go ahead in the lessons area  (a huge fairway like area). So I have a place but not sure just how to go about it as far as measuring it all out. It sure seems like maybe finding a place with a flight scope might be a lot easier.

I am open to any suggestions.


Put a flag or your bag out at the targeted yardage. Hit 20 balls. Plot them out relative to that flag/bag. Move the flag/bag to the next yardage and plot them again.

For the driver, just worry about left/right tendencies as well as knowing your carry yardage.

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Put a flag or your bag out at the targeted yardage. Hit 20 balls. Plot them out relative to that flag/bag. Move the flag/bag to the next yardage and plot them again.

For the driver, just worry about left/right tendencies as well as knowing your carry yardage.

Hmm, I always hit the balls, then leave my bag where I hit from and then use my rangefinder to see where how far the balls traveled.

Then I lament because my oval is so big. :(

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Went and hit 10balls with wedge.8 iron, 6 iron 4 hybrid, 3 hybrid 3 wood and driver on the launch monitor at my local golf shop. 9,7,gw and SW are all estimates based on the above readings from my wedge. Shot pattern dispersion as predicted was a slight draw to 6 iron. Fade the rest. Knowing these yardage and shot patterns I'm now able to go out and start to play some serious golf. Shot a 77 on Wednesday and was very pleased. If you are at all entertaining the idea of sorting out yardage and shot dispersion do it. It arms you with so much knowledge about your game. You can commit to every shot knowing that your going to get a 95% chance of hitting your target.

Remember its just a game.....more serious than life and death.

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Going to be reading this on the airplane flight to San Francisco tomorrow.

-Jerry

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I found a local shop that has a Flightscope and spent time hitting with my clubs and getting my shot zones mapped.

Wow what an eye opener it was. Needless to say I will be looking at club choice and aiming a bit differently from now on.

I am consistently hitting left and short. I made myself a laminated tag for my bag with average distances and ranges to help in club choice.

Now on with the reading.

Don

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I found a local shop that has a Flightscope and spent time hitting with my clubs and getting my shot zones mapped. Wow what an eye opener it was. Needless to say I will be looking at club choice and aiming a bit differently from now on. I am consistently hitting left and short. I made myself a laminated tag for my bag with average distances and ranges to help in club choice. Now on with the reading.

That shot zone/yardage and club selection is essential. Quick note I shot 80 in a monthly medal playing off 7. Front 9 I had 48 off the stick.i had no energy and very ill on the guts. I was very ill. Had something to eat and drink and shot 4 under 32 on the back nine with a bogey and 2 lip outs. It pays off to know your yardage and shot zones.

Remember its just a game.....more serious than life and death.

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I started reading Lowest Score Wins for the 2nd time. The beauty of the book is that if you read the info over/again, it makes so much sense.

Today I entered a discussion about practise in relation to lowering your score . I'll give the short version.  I said focus should be on practising with the driver/iron . Other guy said, focus should be on putting. Might be a false argument, but I asked him if he had the chance of playing against a pro, what would he choose: a putting contest or a driving/iron contest? Without thinking the answer was a putting contest. And then he realised what he said, the look on his face was priceless.

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I started reading Lowest Score Wins for the 2nd time. The beauty of the book is that if you read the info over/again, it makes so much sense.

Today I entered a discussion about practise in relation to lowering your score . I'll give the short version.  I said focus should be on practising with the driver/iron . Other guy said, focus should be on putting. Might be a false argument, but I asked him if he had the chance of playing against a pro, what would he choose: a putting contest or a driving/iron contest? Without thinking the answer was a putting contest. And then he realised what he said, the look on his face was priceless.

I ask people the same thing every time I hear someone say "drive for show, putt for dough".  Most people never think about it, but when I show them my numbers on Game Golf, it blows their mind.  I average 1.7 putts per hole.  So does Lee Westwood.  McDowell and Furyk are really putting me in their dust at 1.6 per hole.  Then they start to realize that they are probably around that same number themselves and you can see the wheels turning in their head.  I would love to take credit for this but I always let them know where I am getting my info from.

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For someone that doesn't have ability to just go to a course and map out my wedge distances. Can I just walk into PGA Superstore and say I need to hit my wedges and get the distances?

Finished sectioned 1 last night, great stuff so far! I look forward to trying out the method to reading putts.


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For someone that doesn't have ability to just go to a course and map out my wedge distances. Can I just walk into PGA Superstore and say I need to hit my wedges and get the distances?

Finished sectioned 1 last night, great stuff so far! I look forward to trying out the method to reading putts.

I wouldn't. I find it difficult to get proper distances off mats with wedges. The wedge has a tendency to slide underneath the ball too much, and the flight can be to high.

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I wouldn't. I find it difficult to get proper distances off mats with wedges. The wedge has a tendency to slide underneath the ball too much, and the flight can be to high.

For someone that doesn't have ability to just go to a course and map out my wedge distances. Can I just walk into PGA Superstore and say I need to hit my wedges and get the distances?

Finished sectioned 1 last night, great stuff so far! I look forward to trying out the method to reading putts.

Good point, I'll have to try and figure it out then!

I wouldn't either.  For me it is something mental.  I swing about 5-10 miles an hour less on a simulator indoors than I do on the course.  Therefore the numbers I get on a simulator do not match how I actually perform on the course.

Todd

Driver:  Cobra ZL Encore 9.5*

Woods:  Cobra AMP Fairway Adjustable 3-4W

Irons: Callaway XRPro S300 5i, 6i, 7i, 8i, 9i, PW, AW

Wedges:  Cobra Trusty Rusty - 53*, 57* / Callaway Mack Daddy PM - 60*, 64*

Putter: SeeMore SB2

Golf Ball:  Callaway SuperSoft

Yes, I carry 6 wedges, what are you gonna do about it?

 

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I asked him if he had the chance of playing against a pro, what would he choose: a putting contest or a driving/iron contest? Without thinking the answer was a putting contest. And then he realised what he said, the look on his face was priceless.

This is a genius response.  You can totally do it in a friendly way but at the same time there's really no response other than recognition that (almost) every amateur has way more to improve with their full swing than around/on the green.  I'm totally using this.

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taxgolf Well Established Member

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This is a genius response.  You can totally do it in a friendly way but at the same time there's really no response other than recognition that (almost) every amateur has way more to improve with their full swing than around/on the green.  I'm totally using this.

I do not know the exact page in the LSW book, but is was written somewhere. It totally opened my eyes and I am using it time after time. But there are a lot of stuburn golfers out there...


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