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This thread is analogous to a bad marriage!  Two sides can't agree.  Conversations get loud and illogical.  The sides say things they don't full mean but can't take back.  This thread needs c[COLOR=222222] ounseling [/COLOR].

I'd like to have @Mr. Desmond represent the money grubbing attention ***** side of the argument... Haha

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I'm angry because this thread is full of sexist garbage, and I find that disgusting. The conclusion he is deriving has no basis in actual, established fact, but in some sort of cultural insecurity and

I should make a card game called jump to conclusions. Moderator draws a card that has a scenario described on it, and your objective will be to come up with a technically sane, but baseless conclusion

I'm talking about adults, not kids. I am also extra grumpy because it's pouring rain on a Saturday morning and I should be at golf.

I'd like to have @Mr. Desmond represent the money grubbing attention ***** side of the argument... Haha


Having just extricated a client from an obvious gold digger marriage, and helped with the settlement, Judge Jerry says this about Jason and Amanda without looking at the divorce petition ...

Abuse -- unless something is filed .. it is "he said, she said."

Infidelity -- "he said, she said"

Throw the above garbage out because it is liar's poker without objective evidence.

Here we have a short term marriage of what, 2 years, without children, in which Jason earned the money, and had been working all of his life to hone his skills to earn the money; Amanda entered late in the game, had nothing to do with staying with him during any tough time, although he was injured (goes to equity), and homemaking skills would be somewhat suspect since Jason (and she?)  is on the road most of the year; she latched on to Jason's fame with her pictures and could very well benefit from it in a profession...

Amanda is accustomed to a certain level of living over the last 2 years, and requires time and money to educate, get into a profession, and support herself.

I did not see any mention of alimony (deductible to Jason, income to Amanda). If it was a property settlement, it is not taxable to Amanda. If the above is true...

Amanda's attorney did well

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Still don't think she is a GOLD Digger in the terms of : Married him just to get his money. I think she went in with the intention of (best i can do) for myself and he is a good guy. It will put ME on the map and if I play my cards right I can get a photo gig and maybe more. If not, I will live a good life and be a mother (not really what I want and not on my terms), but it will do and I could do worse.

Every chance she got to take a photo Op, she did. Once she got a little attention outside of him, 50 cent pic. etc. That was all she needed.

Think we all agree it takes two. Certainly he did not marry her so she could go to hollywood and become a star, that came from being with him. She obviously pressured him to show up places. She grabbed each apperance and injected herself into it.

She used him to further herself. That is a FACT ! That is who she is and what she did...

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Still don't think she is a GOLD Digger in the terms of : Married him just to get his money. I think she went in with the intention of (best i can do) for myself and he is a good guy. It will put ME on the map and if I play my cards right I can get a photo gig and maybe more. If not, I will live a good life and be a mother (not really what I want and not on my terms), but it will do and I could do worse. Every chance she got to take a photo Op, she did. Once she got a little attention outside of him, 50 cent pic. etc. That was all she needed. Think we all agree it takes two. Certainly he did not marry her so she could go to hollywood and become a star, that came from being with him. She obviously pressured him to show up places. She grabbed each apperance and injected herself into it. She used him to further herself. That is a FACT ! That is who she is and what she did...

Ah another that gets it. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck.... Must be a turkey... Right @Phil McGleno

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She used him to further herself. That is a FACT ! That is who she is and what she did...

......I'm trying to think of a scenario where one would be getting married and NOT trying to "further" themselves.....

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Reading this thread is like watching a long, drawn out, slow motion train wreck.  I can't figure any other reason why I keep coming back except to read outrageous comments by a lot of foolish members who seem to think that they know a lot more about the Duffners than they possibly could.  You people must have a hard time walking with both feet stuck in your mouths.

Amen.

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Will admit I have not read all of this delightful thread. But the question I keep asking myself is, Who took all those pics of  Amanda ?

they are not selfies. Don't think all of the blame is on her. ( just talkin about the pics, and the pics only )

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Yea, I wanted them to be compatible. I wanted them to have a bunch of kids who would run out onto the green and grab Daddy's legs while he planted a big smooch on Amanda's face and grabbed her butt.  I wanted that marriage to last until she was too saggy and wrinkled to post up her goodies on Instagram.

I'm a romantic that way.

But like the song says, after the love is gone, best to get out and move on.

Wow, that is a high level of emotional investment in the marriage of two people you don't know.

This thread is analogous to a bad marriage!  Two sides can't agree.  Conversations get loud and illogical.  The sides say things they don't full mean but can't take back.  This thread needs counseling.

There is a third side you are missing.  Those of us who could not give a rip about their personal lives and watch in mocking fascination at those who do.

She used him to further herself. That is a FACT ! That is who she is and what she did...

It's amazing how people confuse the definition of fact with the definition of opinion.

But, but, but, if you put the word FACT in capital letters that makes all the difference.

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This post isn't about whether Amanda is a gold digger. But I do think we can make inferences from what we know about the settlement. Does $2.5M indicate anything about Amanda's fault? If it is significantly less than what she would get from a judge in a typical equitable division of assets, then I would infer yes. They've been married 3 years, and Jason has made (someone calculated) >20M in that time. You can't divide money already blown, however, so earnings are not the final answer. Presumably they accumulated at least $10M in assets during that time. That's probably low because it assumes he made $20M and they managed to completely blow $10M (i.e. earnings spent with no asset to show for it), so the real figure of assets accumulated is probably $10M-$15M. As a starting point for equitable division, Amanda would be entitled to half, or $5M-$7M. So why is she settling for less than half of that? Typically an all cash settlement would be less, as cash is more "valuable" at the instant than assets which must be liquidated and divided. A prenuptual agreement probably doesn't explain it, because pre-nups typically focus on assets (and appreciation of those assets) then in existence when the pre-nup is signed. Jason made most of his money after they were married. Amanda also has a lawyer, so I think we can assume she is well informed of where she stands and what her reasonably achievable outcomes are. So, what else might explain why she's taking less than half of what would likely be the default settlement? There are two "most likely" reasons: fault, or she just wants out as quickly as possible. In equitable division, evidence of infidelity, or if she "squandered" a disproportionate amount of the earnings, could swing the division significantly in Jason's favor. She might not want to submit to a presentation of evidence about her indiscretions, or her attorney may have advised her that the judge is likely to give her significantly less if she has misbehaved. It's also possible that she's just tired of being married to Jason and is willing to take a (relatively) small, all-cash settlement to get him to agree quickly. I, for one, am not willing to assume that she's leaving up to $5M on the table because she's just a nice person. Of course that's possible, but it's extremely unlikely. Based on (admittedly parse) facts, I think the most likely conclusions are these: --Amanda is taking a nominal cash settlement because she unilaterally ended the marriage, either through fault or abandonment; OR --The Dufners have squandered the vast majority of his earnings over the last 3+ years, and there simply isn't that much to divide. In this, it's likely that Amanda played a primary role in the squandering--otherwise she could force him to give up MORE than half of the assets accumulated since the marriage, so she would likely still not settle for $2.5M. As for her instagram account, I certainly would not want my wife constantly uploading photos of herself in micro-bikinis flaunting her nearly naked body. I don't go as far as @Shorty , but the steady stream of a$$ shots is not what most people would want from the mother of their (future) children.

What an elegant post. I think you 100% nailed it. Now, not to hurt anyone's feelings but I'm sure there are plenty who would believe that Amanda really is that nice. I call you very naive if you believe that. That's my opinion. I also believe she already has another guy with a large bank account and she knows settling for change with Jason will be just fine.

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