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2 minutes ago, JonMA1 said:

Good luck with that now that you live in Florida.

I know. No basements here. When we buy a house, I hope to have man cave with drums and golf practice area. 

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14 minutes ago, CarlSpackler said:

I know. No basements here. When we buy a house, I hope to have man cave with drums and golf practice area. 

At least you can play golf outside year-round. I have a workshop in the back of the garage where I keep my mat and practice net. Since the kids have moved out, we've kept one of their bedrooms as a guest room and turned the other into a music room (the wife's idea). The trouble is, I like to record music and my computer is downstairs. So I think that room would be better served with a golf simulator. Yeah, in my dreams!

Back on topic...

To the OP - Mine is a cheap net and I quickly tore a couple holes in it. I'm using some vinyl mesh clamped over the net as an impact zone. When it comes time to replace the net, I'll take the advice on this topic and invest in a nicer one.

Jon

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3 hours ago, dennyjones said:

I just bought a Rukket Haack Net on Amazon that is suppose to have a lifetime warranty.   It is 10' x 7' and cost about $110.   It received great reviews on Amazon. 

Any issues with the net quality or hitting drives though it? Doesn't look like you could hit a PW in to it, which i'm fine with.

 

I'm learning that this is one of this purchases that you get what you pay for and I equal parts don't want to screw up the first purchase and don't wan to spend $600 if I can avoid it... Or, $1,000 if you get the Net Return Pro and the real feel country club mat... haha! Now I'm just dreaming.

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SKLZ Quickster 8x8 net, can find it on Amazon for under 100.00.  Sets up easily.  I hit driver down to PW.  Have to be careful with wedges, as you can hit it over the net unless you get real close.  I use the Real Feel combo system mats.  One mat to stand on, one to hit off.  Not cheap, but great mats.  197.00.  So for around 300.00 you can be set.  Both are very durable.

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10 hours ago, DoubleAces said:

Any issues with the net quality or hitting drives though it? Doesn't look like you could hit a PW in to it, which i'm fine with.

 

I'm learning that this is one of this purchases that you get what you pay for and I equal parts don't want to screw up the first purchase and don't wan to spend $600 if I can avoid it... Or, $1,000 if you get the Net Return Pro and the real feel country club mat... haha! Now I'm just dreaming.

Mine is arriving today.    I'll post after I get a chance to use it.

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what are the benefits of having a matt and net setup? I ask as i wonder how your actually use it to practice if you only see the ball flight for a short distance, i can see it helping with contact etc, but how do you know your working on the right thing if you cant see the full flight of the ball and how its reacting?

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4 minutes ago, carpediem4300 said:

what are the benefits of having a matt and net setup? I ask as i wonder how your actually use it to practice if you only see the ball flight for a short distance, i can see it helping with contact etc, but how do you know your working on the right thing if you cant see the full flight of the ball and how its reacting?

I struggle with this a little as well when I hit into my net at home. It's easy to know when there's good contact, but I can leave the club face open to the path, and while that shot may feel great - center of the face, ball then turf - it's still a push slice.

Other than a simulator, does anyone know of a product or a method that will indicate the spin when hitting into a net?

Jon

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17 minutes ago, JonMA1 said:

I struggle with this a little as well when I hit into my net at home. It's easy to know when there's good contact, but I can leave the club face open to the path, and while that shot may feel great - center of the face, ball then turf - it's still a push slice.

Other than a simulator, does anyone know of a product or a method that will indicate the spin when hitting into a net?

the net return pro that seems to be the most expensive out there apparently shows you the resultant shot spin direction based on how it returns the ball to you, if it comes back straight it was straight, if it comes back closer to you it was a fade/slice, if it comes back further away from you it was a draw/hook, and i guess the further away in each direction it returns the ball from centre the worse the shot, but it still wouldnt tell me exactly how bad that shot was?

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:mizuno: 3 Wood: JPX800 - 16* Exhsar5 Stiff
:mizuno: 3 - PW: MP-67 Cut Muscle back - S300 stiff
:slazenger: Sand Wedge: 54degree, 12degree bounce
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On 11/16/2016 at 9:57 PM, DoubleAces said:

Any issues with the net quality or hitting drives though it? Doesn't look like you could hit a PW in to it, which i'm fine with.

 

I'm learning that this is one of this purchases that you get what you pay for and I equal parts don't want to screw up the first purchase and don't wan to spend $600 if I can avoid it... Or, $1,000 if you get the Net Return Pro and the real feel country club mat... haha! Now I'm just dreaming.

I received my Rukket net via USPS.    Delivery from Amazon was very quick.  ($109.99).  It arrived in a heavy box.  When I opened it, everything was covered in plastic to prevent damage.   There is a heavy duty carry bag, the frame (robust), net, stakes (aren't needed inside)  and instructions.   It took me about 5 minutes the first time to assemble it and less than 2 minutes to take it down.  I put it up in the garage (10' ceilings) and hit off of my mat.   The net is solid and works great.   I hit almost every club in my bag (no driver yet) without movement (good thing, I have a mirror about 5' behind it).   I did realize that I'm going to need something in front of the net to prevent the ball from bouncing on the garage floor.   I'm very pleased with the net.

I have enough room in the garage to set up my tripod and camera to record my swing.   So far, I'm a happy camper.  

Once I have my tin can solar collector built, I'll be able to practice all winter in the garage.   

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1 hour ago, carpediem4300 said:

what are the benefits of having a matt and net setup? I ask as i wonder how your actually use it to practice if you only see the ball flight for a short distance, i can see it helping with contact etc, but how do you know your working on the right thing if you cant see the full flight of the ball and how its reacting?

We teach indoors. It doesn't take much to know what the resulting shot was going to be like. Generally you can look at the start line and the swing to tell what kind of shot that was. Good players also tend to know if the ball would have faded or drawn.

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I'll try to find the previous thread on indoor ranges, lots of good info and examples.

I built my own net and installed in the garage.  Very easy, very inexpensive

Monster Turn mats are nice.

 

edit;  here it is.  Good info I think

 

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15 hours ago, iacas said:

We teach indoors. It doesn't take much to know what the resulting shot was going to be like. Generally you can look at the start line and the swing to tell what kind of shot that was. Good players also tend to know if the ball would have faded or drawn.

What about for the not so good players? :-D :hmm: Im not sure I could tell my resultant shot shape, especially if i cant stand behind like an instructor and see myself in the third person

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:mizuno: 3 Wood: JPX800 - 16* Exhsar5 Stiff
:mizuno: 3 - PW: MP-67 Cut Muscle back - S300 stiff
:slazenger: Sand Wedge: 54degree, 12degree bounce
:slazenger: Lob Wedge: 60degree 10degree bounce
:ping: Putter: Karsten 1959 Anser 2 Toe weighted
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2 hours ago, carpediem4300 said:

What about for the not so good players? :-D :hmm: Im not sure I could tell my resultant shot shape, especially if i cant stand behind like an instructor and see myself in the third person

Net practice is really about dialing in your swing and making good contact. With irons, I only focus on contact when I hit into a net. I am usually filming my swing and looking to see if I am doing my lesson drills correctly.

With woods, usually the same but you can set up something in the net to see if you get the start direction right. I make a little gate out of two pieces of ribbon or (on one old net) I paint two vertical lines on the net. When I do a "gate" drill, I focus on getting the ball to go between the two vertical ribbons or lines.

Use the net to work on those things and use the range to work on flight.

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6 hours ago, boogielicious said:

Net practice is really about dialing in your swing and making good contact. With irons, I only focus on contact when I hit into a net. I am usually filming my swing and looking to see if I am doing my lesson drills correctly.

With woods, usually the same but you can set up something in the net to see if you get the start direction right. I make a little gate out of two pieces of ribbon or (on one old net) I paint two vertical lines on the net. When I do a "gate" drill, I focus on getting the ball to go between the two vertical ribbons or lines.

Use the net to work on those things and use the range to work on flight.

While it's easy to see the start line, for those of us who get inconsistent flight and are working on the keys which control that, the start line doesn't always provide ample feedback. Unfortunately, I don't know of any outdoor ranges open in the winter up in my neck of the woods. There are simulators, however.

As @carpediem4300 suggested in a previous post, knowing the spin seems important. The only product I'm familiar that might help is this and it doesn't get very good reviews.

Jon

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7 hours ago, boogielicious said:

Net practice is really about dialing in your swing and making good contact. With irons, I only focus on contact when I hit into a net. I am usually filming my swing and looking to see if I am doing my lesson drills correctly.

With woods, usually the same but you can set up something in the net to see if you get the start direction right. I make a little gate out of two pieces of ribbon or (on one old net) I paint two vertical lines on the net. When I do a "gate" drill, I focus on getting the ball to go between the two vertical ribbons or lines.

Use the net to work on those things and use the range to work on flight.

Cimmaron Golf has a black vinyl target with a white vertical strip sewn in. You can easily see the ball marks of where you it it. My practice routine is to hit right, left,high, or low on the stripe. You can usually see the imprint of a ball mark on the white strip as well.

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10 hours ago, carpediem4300 said:

What about for the not so good players? :-D :hmm: Im not sure I could tell my resultant shot shape, especially if i cant stand behind like an instructor and see myself in the third person

Are you working with an instructor?

We get a lot of indoor videos with people working through the winter or bad weather on evolvr.com and it's all fine.

Plus, if you know what you're working on, and trust that the ball flight will be better, you can do it without even knowing what the ball flight will be.

And… you can record yourself with a camera, obviously… ;-)

1 hour ago, JonMA1 said:

While it's easy to see the start line, for those of us who get inconsistent flight and are working on the keys which control that, the start line doesn't always provide ample feedback. Unfortunately, I don't know of any outdoor ranges open in the winter up in my neck of the woods. There are simulators, however.

Start line plus the club location at A6 will tell you quite a bit.

1 hour ago, JonMA1 said:

As @carpediem4300 suggested in a previous post, knowing the spin seems important. The only product I'm familiar that might help is this and it doesn't get very good reviews.

That doesn't tell you the spin at all. Just face angle.

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56 minutes ago, iacas said:

Start line plus the club location at A6 will tell you quite a bit.

DTL video and assuming weight and hands are correctly forward?

57 minutes ago, iacas said:

That doesn't tell you the spin at all. Just face angle.

In addition to the direction it spins around the horizontal bar, I thought the ball might also spin along the axis of the rope. If so, wouldn't the combination of the two give you at least some indication?

Not that it matters. From what I understand, the product isn't very durable.

Jon

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