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Which is it?  

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  1. 1. you shoot a hole in 1 on a par 4, is it.....

    • Albatross
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    • Ace
      1
    • Do not care, it counts as 1! (Both)
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Posted

 if an albatross is 3 under par on a single hole,

and you shoot a hole in 1 on a par 4,

is it both an Albatross and an hole in 1?

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Simple.  It's both.  Just as a 1 on a par-3 is both an ace and an eagle.

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Both.

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Both.

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56 minutes ago, Elmer said:

 if an albatross is 3 under par on a single hole,

and you shoot a hole in 1 on a par 4,

is it both an Albatross and an hole in 1?

Same. Either term is appropriate. It's not an either or

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Off topic, there is something called a "condor" which is a hole in one on a par 5. Apparently there are two condors verified and recorded in golf history.


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Best of both worlds, killing 2 birds with 1 stone

Carry on my wayward drive

There'll be pars when you are done

Lay your weary wedge to rest

Don't you shank no more 

 

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Clearly, it's both.

It is also rare enough that you'd never describe it as (only) either one.

If someone asked "Have you ever had a hole in one?", you'd never say "Yes" without adding "and it was on a Par 4." Same with the albatross. 

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4 minutes ago, Hardspoon said:

It is also rare enough that you'd never describe it as (only) either one.

If someone asked "Have you ever had a hole in one?", you'd never say "Yes" without adding "and it was on a Par 4." Same with the albatross.

great point

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Depends if you are buying the beer for the hole in one.   If the club house is crowded, it is an  albatross,   not too crowded, call it an ace.

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As others have said it is both

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No contest, it's both and it's also a double Eagle.

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7 hours ago, MacDutch said:

No contest, it's both and it's also a double Eagle.

Definitely not a double eagle. -2 is an eagle, double that is -4.

Let's rid the golf world of this bad math and improper terminology! :-)

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15 hours ago, arturo28mx said:

Off topic, there is something called a "condor" which is a hole in one on a par 5. Apparently there are two condors verified and recorded in golf history.

To answer the OP question: Both (not that i'll get one)

And to the above, i think this may also be known as a bloody miracle :-D

Russ, from "sunny" Yorkshire = :-( 

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15 hours ago, arturo28mx said:

Off topic, there is something called a "condor" which is a hole in one on a par 5. Apparently there are two condors verified and recorded in golf history.

I had 2 of those in 1 round, once!
I was playing alone so no can verify,
I also saw bigfoot run from the woods OB across the fairway!

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If I ever get a hole in one, par 3, 4 or 5 I will call it nothing but a hole in one.

I think the other terms should be used for hole outs not from the Tee.  I mean its hard enough to get one so call it what it is!

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2 hours ago, iacas said:

Definitely not a double eagle. -2 is an eagle, double that is -4.

Let's rid the golf world of this bad math and improper terminology! :-)

True that. Overseas we don't use this terminology but.....

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2013/04/09/masters-gene-sarazen-double-eagle-albatross/2066977/

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AUGUSTA, Ga. (AP) — Gene Sarazen hit "the shot heard 'round the world," holing out with a 4-wood from 235 yards in the 15th fairway at Augusta National in 1935. He put a 2 on his card, made up a three-shot deficit with one swing, and then beat Craig Wood in a playoff the next day.

 
It was the shot that put the Masters on the map. And it led to a golf term that was made in America, used only in America, and doesn't make a lick of sense.
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7 minutes ago, MacDutch said:

True that. Overseas we don't use this terminology but.....

I know it exists. That's why I said "let's get rid of this bad terminology." :-)

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