Phil Breaks the Rules Again

[iacas]

14 minutes ago, Hardluckster said:

https://twitter.com/pgatour/status/1016002491090161664?s=12

What?

[rehmwa]

Clearly, what's happening here is Phil is getting crotchety in his old age.  And can afford to do so at a whim.  (Actually, this is semi-serious - it's right up his alley)

1 - "commenting" on the green conditions at Shinnecock.

2 - "commenting" on the grounds crew upkeep of the mowing at the tee box.

3 - commenting (not figuratively) about the Ryder Cup team philosophy

As for the first 2, he should have to play some of the goat tracks around here....

[Hardluckster]

19 minutes ago, iacas said:

What?

 

19 minutes ago, iacas said:

What?

That was a failed attempt on my part to post a link to just the last 45 seconds or so of the exchange. I undoubtedly copied the wrong URL.  Apologies. 

[iacas]

17 minutes ago, Hardluckster said:

That was a failed attempt on my part to post a link to just the last 45 seconds or so of the exchange. I undoubtedly copied the wrong URL.  Apologies. 

The whole thing is in the first post.

[Shindig]

2 hours ago, rehmwa said:

As for the first 2, he should have to play some of the goat tracks around here....

His uncle was a member at the club I play at.  The course definitely went through some periods of being in terrible condition.  I played with him (the uncle, never met Phil) a few times, really great guy.  Even without discussing Phil with him, the uncle's attitude really made me believe Phil's public demeanor (the common one prior to a few months ago) was genuine.  

Phil's behavior lately though...   

[1badbadger]

5 hours ago, saevel25 said:

I think the RO had a good idea that Phil broke a rule. Phil asked if it would have been no issue if he just moved the ball more to the side. Phil was just extrapolating his line of thinking at the time. Then the RO came back and informed Phil he indeed broke the rule.

 

5 hours ago, Hardluckster said:

I may be mistaken, but it appeared to me that when the official returned to inform Phil of the penalty, he was asked if moving to a new spot on the tee box would have negated the penalty. He seemed ito suggest that had Phil moved his tee he wouldn't have incurred the penalty. That is incorrect, of course. 

I think what Phil was talking about moving his tee before he tamped the grass down?  Which leads me to this question...

Could Phil have tamped the grass down first, then teed up his ball on that line without penalty?

[iacas]

1 hour ago, 1badbadger said:

Could Phil have tamped the grass down first, then teed up his ball on that line without penalty?

No.

[Missouri Swede]

1 hour ago, 1badbadger said:

 

I think what Phil was talking about moving his tee before he tamped the grass down?  Which leads me to this question...

Could Phil have tamped the grass down first, then teed up his ball on that line without penalty?

 

16 minutes ago, iacas said:

No.

It would also be a violation of 8-2a

[Rulesman]

1 hour ago, 1badbadger said:

Could Phil have tamped the grass down first, then teed up his ball on that line without penalty?

Did you not read the decision posted earlier

http://www.usga.org/rules/rules-and-decisions.html#!decision-13,d13-2-14

[billchao]

3 hours ago, Shindig said:

I played with him (the uncle, never met Phil) a few times, really great guy.  Even without discussing Phil with him, the uncle's attitude really made me believe Phil's public demeanor (the common one prior to a few months ago) was genuine. 

I don't know, my demeanor and those of my uncles are completely different.

[Hardluckster]

5 hours ago, 1badbadger said:

 

I think what Phil was talking about moving his tee before he tamped the grass down?  Which leads me to this question...

 

You could be correct, but I really doubt this was what Phil was asking.  You can always move your tee to a different location on the tee box. 

This could have been what the official thought he was asking, but his reply to Phil indicates otherwise - at least to me.