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Now on YouTube.

I'm a big fan of Jack's swing and think he understood more about the swing than most playing pros. The book is much better IMO, lots of good stuff when he's talking about the motion. Just have to be careful when he's talking about ball flight cause and effect.

I want to highlight that it's called Golf My Way, there are certain ways he describes things that I think people can easily mis-interpret but it makes sense to him. Also Jack is describing a lot of his feels and feels will differ from player to player. I wouldn't pay too much attention to the grip or curving the ball sections.

Having said that I still enjoy watching this. Things that I would pay attention to or think is good advice:

- Great swing to watch, powerful and athletic
- Staying in motion before the swing. Watch how he waggles and shuffles his feet
- Check out how he has a little pressure shift into his left foot and "rebounds" into the takeaway.
- Steady head
- Importance of rotation and completing the backswing
- He'll talk about coiling but not resisting with the lower body
- Left heel replants as he's "completing" the backswing
- Hands gaining depth via body turn
- Not holding onto wrist angles on the downswing, using the flow to create speed.
- Focuses more on the motion and flow rather than positions
- Early shift left in transition
- Idea that things like footwork, what the club is doing is a reaction to the body movement.

 

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Thanks Mike. Really not loving 5:40. 🙂 Worked for Jack, but man…

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8 hours ago, iacas said:

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Thanks Mike. Really not loving 5:40. 🙂 Worked for Jack, but man…

Yeah...right across the palm? Then he goes and says how a strong grip is actually a weak position because the hands have to be forward which decreases power? Times have certainly changed.

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The channel doesn't look like it's connected to the Nicklaus website in any way. Does Scott Olsen have the rights to distribute it?

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12 minutes ago, Zeph said:

The channel doesn't look like it's connected to the Nicklaus website in any way. Does Scott Olsen have the rights to distribute it?

I don't know, but… once it's online, good luck getting it back.

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5 hours ago, iacas said:

I don't know, but… once it's online, good luck getting it back.

It's already been shared by thousands at this point.   

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Added this to the first post.

I'm a big fan of Jack's swing and think he understood more about the swing than most playing pros. The book is much better IMO, lots of good stuff when he's talking about the motion. Just have to be careful when he's talking about ball flight cause and effect.

I want to highlight that it's called Golf My Way, there are certain ways he describes things that I think people can easily mis-interpret but it makes sense to him. Also Jack is describing a lot of his feels and feels will differ from player to player. I wouldn't pay too much attention to the grip or curving the ball sections.

Having said that I still enjoy watching this. Things that I would pay attention to or think is good advice:

- Great swing to watch, powerful and athletic
- Staying in motion before the swing. Watch how he waggles and shuffles his feet
- Check out how he has a little pressure shift into his left foot and "rebounds" into the takeaway.
- Steady head
- Importance of rotation and completing the backswing
- He'll talk about coiling but not resisting with the lower body
- Left heel replants as he's "completing" the backswing
- Hands gaining depth via body turn
- Not holding onto wrist angles on the downswing, using the flow to create speed.
- Focuses more on the motion and flow rather than positions
- Early shift left in transition
- Idea that things like footwork, what the club is doing is a reaction to the body movement.

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On 1/2/2019 at 8:43 PM, mvmac said:

I want to highlight that it's called Golf My Way, there are certain ways he describes things that I think people can easily mis-interpret but it makes sense to him. Also Jack is describing a lot of his feels and feels will differ from player to player. I wouldn't pay too much attention to the grip or curving the ball sections.

Couple other points. Even though he liked a weak grip his left arm placement didn't match the "weak" left hand. He would have his left elbow pointing more towards the target (pronation). A position which you'll typically see with stronger grip players. Weaker grip players will get the inside part of the elbow pointing more towards the camera (supination), how Hogan demonstrated it in his book (but not how he looked when hitting a shot).

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Having the lead arm more in a pronated position helped him have more of that one-piece, club face "shut"/matching the spine angle look on the takeaway.

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Nicklaus also talked about not having tension but check out what he does with his left arm right before he takes it away. Makes sense that he would do something like this because he said he would imagine his left arm and club shaft staying in one line well into the takeaway.

Called this his stationary press.

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I totally agree with that last post from "jeffy10028": Stick to your natural, comfortable swing and find small changes that give you a lower dispersion or ball striking.

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I finally got a chance to view this video in it's entirety. For me, it was sort of a weird, biological trigger, bringing to mind many of the things I unwittingly was doing when I first picked up a golf club some fifty plus years ago. I was not trying to emulate anyone, and did not even  know who Jack Nicklaus was. In looking back, it is just that for whatever reason, that is the swing I naturally started out with. Not the same, but very similar. Somewhere along the line, my swing got tighter, right arm pinned to the torso (somewhat). As a by-product of recent speed training, and viewing videos from Clay Ballard and others, it just seemed  natural to let my trail arm and elbow to float up.  I guess the body never really forgets. Time will tell and the jury is still out. 

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Jmho, but the way the golf swing was taught back then, worked for them back then. I suspect for some golfers today, those teachings would still work. I am not saying modern instruction is not better, just that there is more than one way to skin something. 

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59 minutes ago, Patch said:

Jmho, but the way the golf swing was taught back then, worked for them back then. I suspect for some golfers today, those teachings would still work. I am not saying modern instruction is not better, just that there is more than one way to skin something. 

Instruction is unquestionably better now overall.

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9 minutes ago, iacas said:

Instruction is unquestionably better now overall.

Well...among those of you who are good..yes. Unfortunately I believe there are still many, many out there who haven’t transformed to today’s capabilities. I’ve taken many random lessons from various pros and none of them compare to what I’ve read/watched from this site.

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26 minutes ago, iacas said:

Instruction is unquestionably better now overall.

I agree, didn't say it wasn't. 

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