Originally Posted by MEfree
So did he have a brain freeze like some suggest or was the spike mark directly in his line and he figured he could get away with a quick ball tap that he hoped would go unnoticed?
Not really sure I like where you're going with this.
Originally Posted by MEfree
As Erik said, there are limits to the unwritten rule and this would have been going beyond those IMO.
We will never know for sure and you could very well be correct. However, I think brain freezes are more explainable when someone unconsciously does something that they normally do. i.e. you normally take a right turn at a particular street to go home but are aware that you should avoid that street because there is construction going on but still make the right turn out of habit.
Yes, tapping down a spike mark might seem tempting, but I would think that years of competition would condition pro golfers to be in the habit of avoiding doing so. Of course, once you hole out, fixing spike marks is ok, so maybe the habit of not fixing spike marks is not as well conditioned in Dyson as I might suspect.
If I wanted to further speculate about whether it was intentional or unconscious, then it would be useful to know if he thought he was on camera or not and where he thought the cameras were placed. Of course, we don't know what was going on in his head.
Here you go again with the leading questions that already have an answer. Why do you do that? I feel like you're sitting over there all excited for somebody to say "yes, I think it's a brain freeze" just so you can unloan this nonsense on them. Why not just share this opinion from the start?
Anyways, you're actually doing here what a lot of people did in the Tiger situation, which is throw out the idea that he's a cheater, with virtually ZERO evidence backing that opinion. Does Dyson have some sort of history of unscrupulous acts that I am unaware of? Also, what thought process would drive a player to CONSCIOUSLY decide to try and "get away with" something so stupid knowing A) There is an extremely high likelihood that it was on camera, and B) That if he does get caught after he signs then he's DQ'd, whereas if he leaves it alone and misses his putt because of it, then it costs him only one stroke. Sorry, but that is one of the dumbest things I've heard.
Originally Posted by slightlymad
what is the purpose of this rule btw, so you wont slow down play with fixing everything in your line?
I think, yeah. Also, I believe, that prohibiting touching your line eliminates the possibility that somebody could (by tamping down the entire path of the putt) create a little "slide" or "path" for their ball directly to the hole.
Originally Posted by bkuehn1952
I think you are correct in the idea that allowing one to fix almost any imperfection leads to abuse from some players. Where metal spikes continue to be used (e.g. the PGA Tour), spike marks are more common. My experience at spikeless facilities is there are very few actual spike marks and much more scuffs or twisting damage. Really annoying to play behind someone who can't/won't pick up their feet or refrain from doing a pirouette near the hole.
Yes, but really, even on the PGA tour, how common are steel spikes anymore? I try to pay attention when I see players shoes, because I've been curious ever since a lot of players stopped wearing any kind of spikes (Couples, Rose, Els, Moore, etc) and I never see them. Does anybody know if there are players out there who still wear them often or exclusively?