Pin in or out? With ball on the fringe
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Yes and I think players would do much better on lag putts if they had the flag tended on putts even as short as 25', however everyone thinks if you can see the cup barely that's good enough and I don't want to make someone grab the stick after someone else hit a 50' putt with the pin out.
Leave the flag stick in.
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I think the thing with downhill is, the ball is going to drop quicker because the lip is lower than the ball at entry. So the ball will drop before it can clank the pin. This means putts moving fast will have a better shot of falling in with the pin there.
With up hill putts the ball could actually ramp the lip and strike the pin on the uprise, which would probably mean more shots that clank off to the side or backwards.
Usually I will leave the pin in on fast putts, take it out on slow putts. I leave it in for chipping and pitching.
by putting i mean from the fringe
Is that because the ball is more likely to go in, or that an over-speed miss will likely end up closer to the hole?
do this. get 5 feet from the hole. leave the pin in. take 10 balls. putt them fairly hard (data set A). how many of those putts go in and how many bounce off the pin? do this 10 times to have a good set of #'s to work with. then do the same thing with soft putts (data set B). now ask yourself this question: when you are putting/chipping from the fringe, are you trying to jam the ball into the hole (data set A) or roll the ball into the hole (data set B). what % gets you into the hole more often? that's the answer to your question.
for me, the answer is: i only leave the pin in to tell me where the hole is, otherwise, i want the pin out.