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My first and most obvious is slow play. My second is golfers who won't let others play through. My third is rain. However, my biggest moan is mucking around with handicaps in competitions. Handicaps were designed to even things up between golfers, when you take 5% or 10% off of them in a competition the playing field is no longer equal, so what's the point of having a handicap?

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IMO The 5% or 10% reduction does equalize.  A 15 HCP tends to have more deviation in scoring and thus has a better chance at shooting a few stokes below average score than a 5 HCP.

Also it is not much of a difference.  A 15 HCP get lowered 1.5 strokes (10%) and a 5 gets lowered 0.5 strokes. A net 1 stroke difference.

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  On 8/21/2022 at 9:06 AM, wacker said:

My first and most obvious is slow play. My second is golfers who won't let others play through. My third is rain. However, my biggest moan is mucking around with handicaps in competitions. Handicaps were designed to even things up between golfers, when you take 5% or 10% off of them in a competition the playing field is no longer equal, so what's the point of having a handicap?

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Hello @wacker. And welcome to TST.

I agree Slow Play will be high up there as it's probably a Pet Peeve for many of us. For me, I'd say people who don't fix their ball marks on the green.... or possibly worse is people who improperly fix their ball marks on the green. πŸ˜–

Oh, another one for me is folks who pitch fits, slam clubs or carry on like emotional babies. "What's wrong with you?" It's just golf. πŸ€ͺ

The handicap thing is probably its own thread. 

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18 holes. If I could wave a wand a round of golf would be 6 holes on the front and 6 on the back.πŸ˜€

 

 

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  On 8/21/2022 at 11:27 AM, Carl3 said:

18 holes. If I could wave a wand a round of golf would be 6 holes on the front and 6 on the back.πŸ˜€

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Easy squeezy. Just count your best six on the front and best six on the back. πŸ‘πŸ˜πŸ‘

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  On 8/21/2022 at 11:27 AM, Carl3 said:

18 holes. If I could wave a wand a round of golf would be 6 holes on the front and 6 on the back.πŸ˜€

 

 

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and there is a good point, why do we have eighteen holes, it's quite a strange number

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  On 8/21/2022 at 11:27 AM, Carl3 said:

18 holes. If I could wave a wand a round of golf would be 6 holes on the front and 6 on the back.πŸ˜€

 

 

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Sounds like a LIV idea….πŸ™‚

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  On 8/21/2022 at 11:27 AM, Carl3 said:

18 holes. If I could wave a wand a round of golf would be 6 holes on the front and 6 on the back.πŸ˜€

 

 

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I disagree.  I need 9 holes to get warmed up. 

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  On 8/21/2022 at 11:27 AM, Carl3 said:

18 holes. If I could wave a wand a round of golf would be 6 holes on the front and 6 on the back.πŸ˜€

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As much as I like 18 holes, I find my scoring total for the day is far lower on days where I only play twelve.  

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  On 8/21/2022 at 1:22 PM, StuM said:

I disagree.  I need 9 holes to get warmed up. 

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Hey Stu, last time I played with you it took both of us about 12 holes to warm up. We played great those last 4 or 5 holes! πŸ€ͺ

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@ChetlovesMer, @StuM,

Last time I played with Stu, I played well the last 7 holes also.   Maybe... just maybe..   make you go huhhhh.. πŸ€¨

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  On 8/21/2022 at 3:08 PM, ChetlovesMer said:

Hey Stu, last time I played with you it took both of us about 12 holes to warm up. We played great those last 4 or 5 holes! πŸ€ͺ

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  On 8/21/2022 at 3:32 PM, dennyjones said:

@ChetlovesMer, @StuM,

Last time I played with Stu, I played well the last 7 holes also.   Maybe... just maybe..   make you go huhhhh.. πŸ€¨

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It is all my fault 

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  1. Slow play - all the things that contribute
  2. slow players not waving faster groups through

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I wish I could walk out of the house straight onto the first tee. Kind of like when you go for a run, BOOM, you're starting immediately. None of this commute, get your bag out of the trunk, pay, starter business. [In Dennis Hopper Voice] What a drag, man. I know, FWP. Peace out.

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Sunflower shells (or pistachio, whatever), cigarette/cigar ashes on the green.

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Slow play without a doubt. 

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  On 8/21/2022 at 9:06 AM, wacker said:

However, my biggest moan is mucking around with handicaps in competitions. Handicaps were designed to even things up between golfers, when you take 5% or 10% off of them in a competition the playing field is no longer equal, so what's the point of having a handicap?

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The USGA, R&A, CONGU, EGA, Golf Australia, etc, reviewed millions of rounds of golf in their records to come up with their recommendations for those reductions, and I'm pretty sure they were doing their best to make things as even as possible.  

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  On 8/22/2022 at 1:45 PM, DaveP043 said:

The USGA, R&A, CONGU, EGA, Golf Australia, etc, reviewed millions of rounds of golf in their records to come up with their recommendations for those reductions, and I'm pretty sure they were doing their best to make things as even as possible.  

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I think @DaveP043 has hit the nail on the head. I really think they are all doing the best they can. Unfortunately, aside from assigning a rules official to follow everyone around the most likely cause of handicaps getting mucked up will likely continue to be the golfers themselves. I'm sure we can all name a sandbagger or two, or at least a golfer who "works the system". You know the guy. He finishes in the top 3 or so every season and when they announce his name instead of applause there's a low groan. 

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