Plugged Ball on Fringe

[Zeph]

I found out it's correct, this is in norwegian where "through the green" is translated to "playing field", in norwegian "spilleområdet". I found the definition on a golf rule site.

The rule say nothing about weather conditions, but there is a lot of rain in the area. 2/3 of the year the course is playable, and there are about 200 days of rain each year. This could be why they have made this decision. I have used this relief once on the course when my third shot on a long par 5 stopped dead into a pretty steep rough edge around a bunker. Embedding a ball into the rough happen rarely.

[RemyM]

I found out it's correct, this is in norwegian where "through the green" is translated to "playing field", in norwegian "spilleområdet". I found the definition on a golf rule site.

Geez, I never looked at your location to see you're not in the USA.

Even if I did my Norwegian isn't very good.

[iacas]

I found out it's correct, this is in norwegian where "through the green" is translated to "playing field", in norwegian "spilleområdet". I found the definition on a golf rule site.

Yeah, we're all quoting USGA rules. You should look up what the R&A; says. It's probably very similar, but since you're under R&A; rules and not USGA rules, it's worth having a look.

[Zeph]

I know, it's my bad to translate directly.

The official norwegian rules have the following definition of "spillefeltet":

Spillefeltet "Spillefeltet" er hele området på banen unntatt: a. Utslagsstedet og puttinggreenen på hullet som blir spilt, og b. Alle hindre på banen.

Exactly the same as "through the green".

[Grndslmhttr3]

dont worry about the rules

Quoted for truth.

[Duff McGee]

I know this will be a stupid question, but I can't remember encountering this situationbefore which I assume is pretty common. If your ball plugs on the green, are you supposed to mark, fix the spot, and then put the ball back onto the repair?

[sjduffers]

I know this will be a stupid question, but I can't remember encountering this situationbefore which I assume is pretty common.

If your ball plugs on the green, are you supposed to mark, fix the spot, and then put the ball back onto the repair?

Sure.  What else would you do: putt it from there (as it lies)? You can, but the odds of success are not very good... ;)

[Duff McGee]

Sure.  What else would you do: putt it from there (as it lies)? You can, but the odds of success are not very good... ;)

Someone in my group said place it next to the mark. I was 99% sure that wasn't right but I thought I would double check.

[Club Rat]

If your ball plugs on the green, are you supposed to mark, fix the spot

When I have these situations, as a precaution, I'll mark the ball, then move the mark one putter length to either side to make the repair.

Don't want to chance accidentally moving or bumping the mark while making repair to the green.

I then move the mark back.

When putting the ball on a fresh repair can sometimes be tricky, especially on soft bent grass greens.

Tough to get the surface of the repair level to the green surface when surface explodes and small bits of the green fly everywhere.

Club Rat

[sjduffers]

If you had to place it next to the fixed spot because it wouldn't stay at rest on the fixed spot, then I'd say that the fix wasn't very good. ;)  Sometimes, when greens are aerated, you are allowed to move the ball away from one of the punch holes (the ball sinks in them easily), as a local rule, so that the ball doesn't jump up as it leaves the putter face.

[ColinL]

Yeah, we're all quoting USGA rules. You should look up what the R&A; says. It's probably very similar, but since you're under R&A; rules and not USGA rules, it's worth having a look.

No need  - the Rules are exactly the same in both jurisdictions.

( Although I am in Scotland, I usually refer to the USGA website because I find it easier  to use than the R&A; one. That's the only difference.)

[Martyn W]

Today I had an approach shot to a green plug itself on the first cut/fringe of the green. I could not mark and move the ball since I was on the fringe so I asked my playing partners what to do. They said move so I did. I moved the ball about 1" to the left of the plug.

What is the proper thing to do if lift clean and place rules are not specified for that day?

Others have posted the answer (25-2) there is one more important thing to note: you may not repair the ball mark before dropping the ball, this would be improving the area of intended drop by eliminating an irregularity of surface in breach of 13-2

The decision is 13-2/10

[rogolf]

By placing the ball you should have incurred a penalty of 1 stroke for placing when you should have dropped.

Rule 25-2 applies: The proper procedure was to lift, clean the ball if needed, then drop in the same place. If the ball rolled back into the pitch mark, then you repeat the procedure. If it lands in the pitch mark again, then you place the ball where it first hit the ground on the 2nd drop.

In fact, placing when dropping is required results in a two stroke penalty.

[Fourputt]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fourputt

By placing the ball you should have incurred a penalty of 1 stroke for placing when you should have dropped.

Rule 25-2 applies: The proper procedure was to lift, clean the ball if needed, then drop in the same place. If the ball rolled back into the pitch mark, then you repeat the procedure. If it lands in the pitch mark again, then you place the ball where it first hit the ground on the 2nd drop.

In fact, placing when dropping is required results in a two stroke penalty.

I stand corrected, although that was posted 7 years ago, and i can't remember why I would have posted it without looking it up to be certain.  Although I'm far from perfect on the rules, I wouldn't normally make such an elementary mistake.

[rogolf]

I stand corrected, although that was posted 7 years ago, and i can't remember why I would have posted it without looking it up to be certain.  Although I'm far from perfect on the rules, I wouldn't normally make such an elementary mistake.

Obliviously, I missed the age of the post.  Apologies.

[Fourputt]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fourputt

I stand corrected, although that was posted 7 years ago, and i can't remember why I would have posted it without looking it up to be certain.  Although I'm far from perfect on the rules, I wouldn't normally make such an elementary mistake.

Obliviously, I missed the age of the post.  Apologies.

LOL - I've done it.  Makes me feel foolish every time I reply to an original post only to find it was resurrected from 10 years earlier.  I'll probably do it again.

[Duff McGee]

LOL - I've done it.  Makes me feel foolish every time I reply to an original post only to find it was resurrected from 10 years earlier.  I'll probably do it again. :doh:

To be fair I've hear the admins asking people to bump old threads instead of starting duplicate threads.

[Phil McGleno]

To be fair I've hear the admins asking people to bump old threads instead of starting duplicate threads.

Yes-But there's a difference between bumping an old thread and responding to a person that has not been on the site in months.