First golfer busted for PEDs

[TN94z]

OKay, many of these comments on roids are the typical comments. Steroids don't make you bigger. All they do is allow you to train more often and longer. Your training and diet is what makes you bigger. Otherwise, people would just take the roids and not work out. So, no you can't always tell who is on and who is not. I would say that there are probably more people on them that you have no clue about than people that are on them and you can tell by looking.


As far as Doug Baron.....150% on steroids!!

[Acropo]

Looking at Barron's results over the past few years, you have to ask: what was he on? Mogadon? Valium?

[Doctorfro]

Guy has health problems, doctor prescribes help, drugs prescribed are illegal on tour. It's kind of a shame. What was his intent? To be healthy, not gain advantage. What I would like to know is if he knew the drugs were banned would he have chosen not to take them and stay unhealthy or would he have taken them anyway?

[Fat Slice]

My understanding is that his non-medicated testosterone levels were found to be withing the normal range when tested by a 3rd party doctor. Given that, and given that he was not granted an exemption, well, what do you want the tour to do? They have to be consistent in rule application and he doesn't leave them much choice.

[golfdad]

probably need more info to give a fair opinion, but here is one thought. does pga know that he is on something before the testing? if i were taking steroid prescribed by mds but know that there may be issues with pga, i would, without any hesitation or delay once i know pga sanctions a list of banned meds, contact pga proactively before any testing is done. now the horse is out of the barn. tough chance for pga to recind. no need to get a black eye for one guy. use him to set an example, justified or not.

[J_Bone]

The tour said Barron was the first player to be suspended under the policy, and not necessarily the first to receive a positive test. The tour is not required to suspend or announce any punishment for recreational drugs.

It seems he was singled out!

HGH would be very beneficial to Golf players. hhhmmm, you can't test for it.

[normdamarine]

Many people seem to forget the wide range of what a steroid can do for you. Many athletes take steroids not to only get stronger, so never truly do, but the recovery thing is dramatically reduced. We all know the wear and tear you put on your body is staggering... Just a thought...

[J_Bone]

Many people seem to forget the wide range of what a steroid can do for you. Many athletes take steroids not to only get stronger, so never truly do, but the recovery thing is dramatically reduced. We all know the wear and tear you put on your body is staggering... Just a thought...

YUP! They helped me get back on my feet after I had knee surgery. At that time I was 160lbs. and didn't get all bulked up at all.

[Gary Glaser]

Anyone who thinks these young golfers arent doping are just plain ignorant. Secretariat still holds many track records. People or animals dont magically improve 25%. The idea that it is equipment is just as ignorant. They can measure culb head speed and it is up more than 30%. When a guy 5ft8in hits a ball 380 yards something is up. The idea that PEDS wont help a golfer are plain stupid. Look what happened to baseball in the 80-90s. Magically mediocre players started hitting 50 home runs. Just like Tiger and many other golfers the Canseco magic happened. They went from normal looking guys to the incredible hulk in 2 years. That doesnt happen in the gym without help. PEDS help focus and strength. Sunday Bubba Watson who never goes to a gym - hit a drive over a green 400 yards away with no wind helping. Just like baseball the PGA loves the results because they need spectators and there is nothing more exciting than a 400 yard drive! No one in the Golf "journalism" world will dig into it because they will get punished. Gary Player had the guts to talk about it and he is viewed as a kook. Well he loves the game and if they dont start SERIOUS testing the game will be ruined. After Lance Armstrong got caught doping cycling is totally different. the times are slower and the finishes, especially on the mountains are pretty even. These golfers make millions to be mediocre and have plenty of money to pay the Drs who specialize in this and they do and will keep doing it. Can you imagine when the PGA finally gets tough like cycling or baseball and the same golfers are playing 8000 yard courses while hitting the ball like they should? The game will be ruined and the PGA doesnt get it

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[Gary Glaser]

I will - I love golf and care - I loved watching the old guys because they were not on drugs - these young golfers are cheating and soon it will ruin the game for all of us. How people cant see the similarity to baseball is insane!  Gary Player gets it and he knows whats going on. What pisses me off are the phony journalists who are afraid of the golf gods who are so selfish that they will sit and watch teir sport turn to crap because fans are so naive they think its wild to see someone 5ft8 hit the ball 400 yds and think its real!  Just like Brady Andersons 55 home run season was real. Sickening. I am an 8 and am 6 2 and workout regularly - I couldnt hit a ball that far down hill, down wind on concrete. yet everyone is going nuts over Jason Day who magically hits 400 yd drives and has club head speed 30% faster than Nicholas

[Lihu]

I will - I love golf and care - I loved watching the old guys because they were not on drugs - these young golfers are cheating and soon it will ruin the game for all of us. How people cant see the similarity to baseball is insane!  Gary Player gets it and he knows whats going on. What pisses me off are the phony journalists who are afraid of the golf gods who are so selfish that they will sit and watch teir sport turn to crap because fans are so naive they think its wild to see someone 5ft8 hit the ball 400 yds and think its real!  Just like Brady Andersons 55 home run season was real. Sickening. I am an 8 and am 6 2 and workout regularly - I couldnt hit a ball that far down hill, down wind on concrete. yet everyone is going nuts over Jason Day who magically hits 400 yd drives and has club head speed 30% faster than Nicholas

Anyone who thinks these young golfers arent doping are just plain ignorant. Secretariat still holds many track records. People or animals dont magically improve 25%. The idea that it is equipment is just as ignorant. They can measure culb head speed and it is up more than 30%. When a guy 5ft8in hits a ball 380 yards something is up. The idea that PEDS wont help a golfer are plain stupid. Look what happened to baseball in the 80-90s. Magically mediocre players started hitting 50 home runs. Just like Tiger and many other golfers the Canseco magic happened. They went from normal looking guys to the incredible hulk in 2 years. That doesnt happen in the gym without help. PEDS help focus and strength. Sunday Bubba Watson who never goes to a gym - hit a drive over a green 400 yards away with no wind helping. Just like baseball the PGA loves the results because they need spectators and there is nothing more exciting than a 400 yard drive! No one in the Golf "journalism" world will dig into it because they will get punished. Gary Player had the guts to talk about it and he is viewed as a kook. Well he loves the game and if they dont start SERIOUS testing the game will be ruined. After Lance Armstrong got caught doping cycling is totally different. the times are slower and the finishes, especially on the mountains are pretty even. These golfers make millions to be mediocre and have plenty of money to pay the Drs who specialize in this and they do and will keep doing it. Can you imagine when the PGA finally gets tough like cycling or baseball and the same golfers are playing 8000 yard courses while hitting the ball like they should? The game will be ruined and the PGA doesnt get it

Are you that sure that this many people are taking PEDs? I know a lot of high school students that fit into the 5'8" category making 300+ yard drives. They're just young and flexible.

I had two friends that took steroids for medical reasons, and both of them stated that while they were really strong during the time they took it that their accuracy, in certain sports, suffered tremendously. There were lots of side effects that interfered with their ability to focus.

Seems like another plausible explanation could be that golf is simply attracting more athletic players than it did in the past?

[isukgolf]

I loved watching the old guys because they were not on drugs -

So ... you saying that the transition away from alcohol has been bad for pro golfers? :-D

[Natural Patrick]

I wonder how many players blaze it up every now and then..I don't think it would give any sort of advantage (however, I've played with some guys that toke during the round and then shoot 72).

I can tell you that the guy that Won the Big12 tournament back in 1984 toked it up. 20 minutes before the biggest high school golf tournament in the state of Illinois. How do I know? Because our coach caught us. He shot a 69 and I shot a 77. He went on to play golf at Mississippi State.

[Pete F]

I thought PEDs were girls short socks.

[iacas]

I will - I love golf and care - I loved watching the old guys because they were not on drugs - these young golfers are cheating and soon it will ruin the game for all of us. How people cant see the similarity to baseball is insane!  Gary Player gets it and he knows whats going on. What pisses me off are the phony journalists who are afraid of the golf gods who are so selfish that they will sit and watch teir sport turn to crap because fans are so naive they think its wild to see someone 5ft8 hit the ball 400 yds and think its real!  Just like Brady Andersons 55 home run season was real. Sickening. I am an 8 and am 6 2 and workout regularly - I couldnt hit a ball that far down hill, down wind on concrete. yet everyone is going nuts over Jason Day who magically hits 400 yd drives and has club head speed 30% faster than Nicholas.

Ridiculous post. I teach kids who can hit the ball far and don't even touch artificial sweeteners let alone PEDs. It's also Nicklaus. Not Nicholas.

[newtogolf]

I will - I love golf and care - I loved watching the old guys because they were not on drugs - these young golfers are cheating and soon it will ruin the game for all of us. How people cant see the similarity to baseball is insane!  Gary Player gets it and he knows whats going on. What pisses me off are the phony journalists who are afraid of the golf gods who are so selfish that they will sit and watch teir sport turn to crap because fans are so naive they think its wild to see someone 5ft8 hit the ball 400 yds and think its real!  Just like Brady Andersons 55 home run season was real. Sickening. I am an 8 and am 6 2 and workout regularly - I couldnt hit a ball that far down hill, down wind on concrete. yet everyone is going nuts over Jason Day who magically hits 400 yd drives and has club head speed 30% faster than Nicholas

How about some proof of their PED's use?  At this point you just seem a bit jealous you can't hit the ball as far as they can.  Maybe the simple answer is you're not as talented as they are.

[Mac62]

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