The 2011 Masters - The Main Thread

[Shorty]

Originally Posted by Shindig

Would you consider my MP-57s to have perimeter weighting?

Most definitely.

Just as my own  MP-57s do!  They are cavity back irons. Which generally means perimeter/peripheral weighting.

I also owned MP-60s and some people insisted on calling them "blades", which is ridiculous. The MP-57s are just a little more dug out at the back. The weight taken from the middle is redistributed at the edges and towards the bottom.

[Shindig]

Now, what's up with Tiger's distance control today?  It seems he's had a few approaches that were off by a full club.

Originally Posted by Shorty

Most definitely.

Just as my own  MP-57s do!  They are cavity back irons. Which generally means perimeter/peripheral weighting.

I also owned MP-60s and some people insisted on calling them "blades", which is ridiculous. The MP-57s are just a little more dug out at the back. The weight taken from the middle is redistributed at the edges and towards the bottom.

Yeah, I've heard mine called blades too.  Now, would you consider them players' irons?  I'm usually suggesting these, or clubs similar to them, when people look into players' irons.

I seem to recall these, or at least the MP-60s, were pretty popular with Mizuno's tour staff.  Brian Gay's 5-8 were MP-60 during his big two wins, for instance.

While we're at it, when they showed the footage of K.J. Choi's eagle on 11 (from 2004), it looked like he had a graphite shaft in his iron.  But I think Matt Kuchar is the only one in the field this year using graphite iron shafts.

[Shorty]

Originally Posted by Shindig .

Yeah, I've heard mine called blades too.  Now, would you consider them players' irons?  I'm usually suggesting these, or clubs similar to them, when people look into players' irons.

I seem to recall these, or at least the MP-60s, were pretty popular with Mizuno's tour staff.  Brian Gay's 5-8 were MP-60 during his big two wins, for instance.

I hate the term "Players' irons". It is used by people who are poor golfers who want to sound cool and knowledgeable. It makes them appear the opposite, in my view.

I just call them great clubs. :-)
Trevino used them. (MP-60s)

Faldo used them when he had no sponsor and said they were the best irons he ever played.

[Zeph]

Tiger is out of it, go Rory!

[Chilli Dipper]

Originally Posted by Zeph

Tiger is out of it, go Rory!

I wouldn't count Tiger out of it yet by any means. Rory has a big lead, and with big leads comes big pressure, especially in major championships. There are two outcomes for tomorrow: either Rory rises above that pressure, and plays at a level that no one would be capable of catching anyway (as Louis Oosthuizen did at St. Andrews last year), or he will succumb to it, and leave the title to anyone capable of posting a low number. If the latter happens, I'd say that anyone down to the crowd at 5-under has a chance of winning this thing, which is exactly where Tiger sits right now.

[Ernest Jones]

I wouldn't count tiger out but Rory has been cool, calm and collected for 3 rounds so I wouldn't count Rory out either. And the kid has some SERIOUS game.

[groovezilla79]

Sorry, but Tiger IS out of it. He's just not putting well enough.   If Rory slips.... I think Angel Cabrera will take home his second Green Jacket. Dude is too cool and calm to make big mistakes. I like Luke Donald as an outside shot, just because his iron play and short game are so good. With Sunday pin locations at a major, he could post a number with an hour or so left in Rory and Angel's round that will put a little more pressure on them. Either way, I'm pulling for Rory.

[royal oak]

Tiger's putting was terrible today...but I would never count him out of it.  Rory does look good so far.  And he is sponsored by AP...GO RORY!

[Elvisliveson]

Originally Posted by royal oak

Tiger's putting was terrible today...but I would never count him out of it.  Rory does look good so far.  And he is sponsored by AP...GO RORY!

I just don't get when people say that about Tiger. He has never comeback to win any major EVER when he's been behind after 54 holes.  Not even from 1 stroke, much less 7. So, the logical conclusion is to count him out.

[Shindig]

Originally Posted by Elvisliveson

I just don't get when people say that about Tiger. He has never comeback to win any major EVER when he's been behind after 54 holes.  Not even from 1 stroke, much less 7. So, the logical conclusion is to count him out.

There was a time when he hadn't won one with a 54 hole lead either.

Come to think of it, has Rory ever won one with a 54 hole lead?

[Elvisliveson]

Originally Posted by Shindig

There was a time when he hadn't won one with a 54 hole lead either.

Come to think of it, has Rory ever won one with a 54 hole lead?

Stop being silly. Rory has played in what 8 majors? Tiger's played in 62, won 14 yet never did it when trailing after 54 holes. Where is the logic in saying you can never count him out when he's never done it before? That statement implies he has a proven track record of coming back in majors when trailing after 54 holes when his history is just the opposite. One can certainly hope, wish and pray that he can do it, because miracles do happen and it's remotely possible, anything like that can happen, but his past experiences in these situations clearly indicate it's unklikely.

[darkhunter139]

Bubba had a good round today, its a shame he had 3 double bogey's the previous two rounds or he would be right up there in the top 5.  He is still -5 under though so you never know.

[ghalfaire]

I wouldn't count Tiger out just because he is Tiger.  But I'm not putting any money on him either.  His putting isn't very consistent yet but if he get hot he could post a pretty low round tomorrow.  My money says Rory will not fold under pressure and anyone that wants to beat him will have to go very low tomorrow.

[xxsoultonesxx]

I'm pretty bummed Day let his score slip like that, I was really pulling for him. Holy effing Mcilroy, though! If he goes wire-to-wire to win this thing...that will be quite the statement. Especially at 21 years of age....

Tomorrow is gonna be a nail biter.

[The Recreational Golfer]

If Rory shoots 70 in the final round, which easily doable, Tiger would have to shoot a 63 to catch him. That party is over.

BTW, on Tiger's drive on 17, the one where he ended up hitting his second while doing a deep knee bend, even I could see that was a beaner swing (the drive). Did he stack and not tilt, or did he tilt and not stack?

I do have to say his second shot on 15 was really something, along with the second on 17. Having to hit spectacular second shots isn't a good sign, though, especially if you have to pull a 63 or thereabouts out of the air.

[turtleback]

For some reason, most of Tiger's approaches to the greens were long today.  He hardly ever got the ball hole high.

[golf4fun12]

I will never count tiger out at the masters. yeah sure, 7 is a big number to make up, but anything is possible on a sunday. I wouldn't mind rory winning. great player. I gotta go for KJ choi though. always a class act on and off the course. I always want to see choi up on the leader board. he is great the first 2 days and then he just tails off the last 2 days. but this year at the masters, he is looking pretty good.

[Stretch]

I don't hate my Charl Schwartzel pick in the Masters pool thread.

Otherwise, I'm pulling for Luke Donald.