My Progress w/Overspeed Training Using SuperSpeedGolf

[iacas]

Ditto for me, largely because you're not also trying to hit a golf ball.

[Slowcelica]

I've had these for a while and just haven't used them very much because I felt my swing was not in a place it needed to be and using these would just re-inforce a bad swing. Is there any truth to that or should I go ahead and start using them and get my ss up while working on my mechanics.

[DeadMan]

35 minutes ago, Slowcelica said:

I've had these for a while and just haven't used them very much because I felt my swing was not in a place it needed to be and using these would just re-inforce a bad swing. Is there any truth to that or should I go ahead and start using them and get my ss up while working on my mechanics.

The focus of these is definitely speed and not mechanics. WhenI'm using them, I'm making pretty wild swings trying to get my speed as high as possible. It's really totally separate from your mechanical work. I think you can easily do both. There's also something to be said for swinging as fast as possible and then figuring out the mechanics from there. 

Would defer to a more learned opinion, though.

[iacas]

3 hours ago, Slowcelica said:

I've had these for a while and just haven't used them very much because I felt my swing was not in a place it needed to be and using these would just re-inforce a bad swing. Is there any truth to that or should I go ahead and start using them and get my ss up while working on my mechanics.

What @DeadMan said. You're not making "golf swings" so much as you are swinging a stick as fast as you can in a way that somewhat resembles a golf swing.

[klineka]

19 hours ago, DeadMan said:

The focus of these is definitely speed and not mechanics. WhenI'm using them, I'm making pretty wild swings trying to get my speed as high as possible. It's really totally separate from your mechanical work. I think you can easily do both. There's also something to be said for swinging as fast as possible and then figuring out the mechanics from there. 

Would defer to a more learned opinion, though.

16 hours ago, iacas said:

What @DeadMan said. You're not making "golf swings" so much as you are swinging a stick as fast as you can in a way that somewhat resembles a golf swing.

Cool. That makes sense as I had a similar question as @Slowcelica I just hadn't posted it yet.

I had done like a week or two of SuperSpeed again but then started working on my driver swing with my instructor so I stopped the speed training because I didn't want to mess up my progress. 

Looks like I'll be picking the speed training back up again here soon.

[criley4way]

17 hours ago, iacas said:

What @DeadMan said. You're not making "golf swings" so much as you are swinging a stick as fast as you can in a way that somewhat resembles a golf swing.

I was told to swing as fast as possible and let form go. But recently I have been focusing on trying to engage the muscles in the same way, just not worrying about the details of a swing. 

[Slowcelica]

20 hours ago, iacas said:

What @DeadMan said. You're not making "golf swings" so much as you are swinging a stick as fast as you can in a way that somewhat resembles a golf swing.

Thanks that makes sense, time to start the program.

[Typhoon92]

4 hours ago, criley4way said:

I was told to swing as fast as possible and let form go. But recently I have been focusing on trying to engage the muscles in the same way, just not worrying about the details of a swing. 

The problem I ran into 2 years ago was this:  I live in New England so there is no winter golf for me.  I swung the speed sticks like a friggin madman to create speed.  I could have hit balls inside but I didn’t.  I ended up with too much of this “off balance swing out of my ass” swing as my golf swing.  Took me 3 months to find the center of the club face again and start scoring well again.

Last year I swung them as fast as I could while staying in balance and swinging like my normal swing.  Just a bigger load, more turn and let the weight of the sticks generate my speed.  I also hit balls indoors with my driver all winter, something I didn’t do the year before.  
 

Results were great.  Swing was faster, still was my normal driver swing and I did gain speed and distance.

This off season I’ve stuck with last years plan but added in some long drive technique that actually makes my overall driver swing more solid and  has been showing gains on our simulator and GC2.  We’ll see how it pans out in the spring/summer on the course but so far I’m very happy with what I’m seeing.

[boogielicious]

I started up today after a couple of months layoff due to family commitments. I surprised myself with a 105 with the green at the end. I tried to keep my form as @Typhoon92 suggested and kept the swing thoughts I've been working on in my lessons. But I did give it full effort.

I also did a long warm up to get loose.

[BrettZenewicz]

Sorry if this has been covered ( I haven't gone through the whole thread)... has anyone experimented with using different protocols (less swings, single stick, etc.) than the ones prescribed by superspeed golf ? 

[boogielicious]

1 hour ago, BrettZenewicz said:

Sorry if this has been covered ( I haven't gone through the whole thread)... has anyone experimented with using different protocols (less swings, single stick, etc.) than the ones prescribed by superspeed golf ? 

I don’t go to my knees in the second phase because of knee issues. I stand with feet together instead. I think they mention that somewhere. I also don’t use my normal grip when swinging lefty. It hurt my thumb so I do a baseball grip.
 

If the issue is wear and tear, less swings will still help but to a lesser extent.

[BrettZenewicz]

17 hours ago, boogielicious said:

If the issue is wear and tear, less swings will still help but to a lesser extent.

This is where I'm mostly interested in others experiences... Im not so sure less in actually less.  More swings doesn't exactly = more progress or sustained progress... Thanks for reply! 

[Typhoon92]

On 2/21/2020 at 2:29 PM, boogielicious said:

I don’t go to my knees in the second phase because of knee issues. I stand with feet together instead. I think they mention that somewhere. I also don’t use my normal grip when swinging lefty. It hurt my thumb so I do a baseball grip.
 

If the issue is wear and tear, less swings will still help but to a lesser extent.

This year my right thumb joint is bad so the lefty swings are a different grip as well and not as fast... too much pain.

i don’t bother with the knee swings, no good could come of being in that position. Standing with feet together is fine.

Since a lot of us are in Quarantine and our courses are closed I figured I’d revive this thread.

What I’ve been doing is sticking with Protocol 1 and on the round of normal fast swings I add in my own driver after swinging the red club.  Then at the end after the swings with the green club, I swing with my regular driver.  
 

I don’t swing my own driver on the “step through drill “ or the “standing with feet together drill”.

I like it because I get the “real feel” after swinging the green club so fast and then my driver real fast.

[boogielicious]

1 hour ago, Typhoon92 said:

This year my right thumb joint is bad so the lefty swings are a different grip as well and not as fast... too much pain.

i don’t bother with the knee swings, no good could come of being in that position. Standing with feet together is fine.

Since a lot of us are in Quarantine and our courses are closed I figured I’d revive this thread.

What I’ve been doing is sticking with Protocol 1 and on the round of normal fast swings I add in my own driver after swinging the red club.  Then at the end after the swings with the green club, I swing with my regular driver.  
 

I don’t swing my own driver on the “step through drill “ or the “standing with feet together drill”.

I like it because I get the “real feel” after swinging the green club so fast and then my driver real fast.

Are you hitting with the driver or just swinging like the other swings?

[Typhoon92]

1 minute ago, boogielicious said:

Are you hitting with the driver or just swinging like the other swings?

Just swinging like it’s part of the Superspeed program.  I have nowhere to hit driver with everything closed.

It seems to be a good idea because I’m swinging abnormally fast with a normal club...it’s training my brain to not think swinging my own driver that fast is wrong.

I hope I wrote that right....

Swinging the sticks doesn’t really feel like swinging my driver.  Different weight distribution because my driver is a longer club.

i like the way I’m swinging the driver making it part of the training just on the normal setup fast full swings after the green club.  I know it’s not going to hurt.  God knows, I could be on to something.

[billchao]

I haven't swung mine in a while. I should probably start it up again.

I stopped doing it because it didn't really fit into my fitness schedule. I was going to the gym early in the morning before work, then by the time I got home from work I was worn out. Plus it was winter, it was dark and cold out. Now that I'm working out from home in the evenings again, I can probably do these early in the morning.

[Typhoon92]

I work out in the morning too Bill and that’s when I used to swing them.  Now that everything is closed, we do our gym classes same time on Zoom at home.  Superspeed I go outside during the day when I’m bored

[Missouri Swede]

6 hours ago, Typhoon92 said:

Just swinging like it’s part of the Superspeed program.  I have nowhere to hit driver with everything closed.

It seems to be a good idea because I’m swinging abnormally fast with a normal club...it’s training my brain to not think swinging my own driver that fast is wrong.

I hope I wrote that right....

Swinging the sticks doesn’t really feel like swinging my driver.  Different weight distribution because my driver is a longer club.

i like the way I’m swinging the driver making it part of the training just on the normal setup fast full swings after the green club.  I know it’s not going to hurt.  God knows, I could be on to something.

I know that the green and blue are "lighter" than the usual driver (I think they said 60 gm shaft), and red is "heavier." But how does that correspond (or not) to swing weight of the driver?

I suppose it doesn't matter for me--higher speed is an improvement.  Just curious.  My gamer (until recently) is a D6, and my driver previous to that is D3.