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What were their majors in college?

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I know alot of people who all had to take loans to go to college and alot of these people are working in decent (not great) jobs. But the school debt is still there.So is the mortgage etc...etc..etc...
Then again different areas have different cost of living.
Having everyone (mostly) trained in a trade, skill or higher education. Is not only good for the person, but society itself as it benefits all of us!

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Right. That's what I said above. He didn't say all of them were of bad character. He generously allowed that some (which would generally mean way less than most or even half) might be go

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Illegal immigration is a big problem in this country. Try going to Sweden or Russia and hanging out without any papers and see how long you last. Its not racist to secure the borders.

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Not at all. He was referring to the Mexican government and claims that they're "sending" (facilitating?) illegal immigrants that are of bad character, to be rid of them themselves. He never said t

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https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-cruz-rubio-nytimes-immigration-interview-164046216.html

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Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Mitt Romney are calling for Donald Trump and the New York Times to release an off-the-record interview the newspaper conducted with the Republican frontrunner on immigration.

According to BuzzFeed, Trump “revealed a degree of flexibility in his otherwise hardline stance on immigration” in the Jan. 5 interview.

“Apparently there is a secret tape that the New York Times editorial board has of Donald Trump saying that he doesn’t believe what he’s saying on immigration, saying that all of his promises to secure the border are not real and if he’s president he doesn’t intend to do what he said,” Cruz told reporters in San Antonio on Monday. “I call on Donald: Ask the New York Times to release the tape and do so today before the Super Tuesday primary.”

Rubio joined the Texas senator in demanding that Trump and the paper release the contents of the interview.

“It sounds like what he told [the New York Times] is different from what he is telling you,” Rubio told supporters at a rally in Conway, Ark., Monday. “Donald Trump should ask the New York Times to release the audio of his interview with them so we can see exactly what it is he truly believes about this issue which he has made the cornerstone of his campaign.”

I'm amused that these guys are begging Trump to approve the tapes release - why on Gods green earth would he do that if it says what they think it says???

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15 minutes ago, Golfingdad said:

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-cruz-rubio-nytimes-immigration-interview-164046216.html

I'm amused that these guys are begging Trump to approve the tapes release - why on Gods green earth would he do that if it says what they think it says???

That's why they asked. Either there's nothing there and they already created a story out of it for a cycle by playing to the imagination,  or there is something there and he just won't release it. The end result to those making the calls is pretty much the same. 

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A look back to LBJ vs Goldwater and its similarities to today.

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If Trump is the Republican nominee and Hillary Clinton is chosen by the Democrats, the 2016 election may seem like a distorted, vulgar repetition of 1964: a contest between a Republican who scares and repels people, including Republicans, and a Democrat whom many voters, including Democrats, don’t like or trust, leading to an outcome that may change the electoral map again. There are wishful hopes (Governor John Kasich, of Ohio, may be hoping) that no Republican will win the required number of delegates to secure the nomination in the primaries, which could lead to a brokered convention. But a Republican Party with the power to do the brokering no longer seems to exist. Of the two major not-Trumps, Florida’s Senator Marco Rubio, who in any other year might be seen as too far to the right even for the G.O.P., talks incessantly about uniting his party rather than his country, while Senator Ted Cruz, of Texas, talks about uniting those who agree with his cruel, narrow outlook. Trump, meanwhile, could barely manage a wobbly disavowal of support from a former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. The Republican Governor Nikki Haley, of South Carolina, said the other day that the effect of a Trump candidacy on the Party would be to “make us question who we are and what we’re about.” But the other Republican candidates would also prompt that line of questioning.

From Goldwater to Trump: When Parties Fail to Stop Alarming Candidates

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/from-goldwater-to-trump-when-parties-fail-to-stop-alarming-candidates

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35 minutes ago, nevets88 said:

A look back to LBJ vs Goldwater and its similarities to today.

From Goldwater to Trump: When Parties Fail to Stop Alarming Candidates

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/from-goldwater-to-trump-when-parties-fail-to-stop-alarming-candidates

What's somewhat ironic about this is that the Barry Goldwater who comes out in Conscience of a Conservative would be a landslide winner today. 

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1 hour ago, k-troop said:

What's somewhat ironic about this is that the Barry Goldwater who comes out in Conscience of a Conservative would be a landslide winner today. 

Yet he was no more than a tiny step from being a card carrying John Bircher.

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I don't care much, but I saw Cruz is projected to win Texas. That carries a lot of votes, right? But Trump is projected to win most of the other states so far?

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4 hours ago, Fourputt said:

Yet he was no more than a tiny step from being a card carrying John Bircher.

Do you actually know anything about John Birch or the movement named in his honor?

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1 minute ago, CR McDivot said:

Do you actually know anything about John Birch or the movement named in his honor?

Not really.  I don't care for extremism in anything, so as long as they didn't gain any real momentum, I saw no reason to waste my time with them.

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Just now, Fourputt said:

Not really.  I don't care for extremism in anything, so as long as they didn't gain any real momentum, I saw no reason to waste my time with them.

Do some research, you may be surprised by what you find.

Only a fool accepts without question what the establishment feeds, or opposes those whom he knows nothing about. :-\

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12 minutes ago, iacas said:

I don't care much, but I saw Cruz is projected to win Texas. That carries a lot of votes, right? But Trump is projected to win most of the other states so far?

That's what it looks like. Cruz is from Texas though, so he's been expected to take that one. Oklahoma going for Cruz is an upset based on recent polling though.

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7 minutes ago, CR McDivot said:

Do some research, you may be surprised by what you find.

Only a fool accepts without question what the establishment feeds, or opposes those whom he knows nothing about. :-\

I just did some reading and pretty much what I'm reading is what I always heard.  They opposed the civil right movement and the Civil Rights Act of 1964.  They are beyond paranoid about communism.  They are exactly the sort of extremists that I distrust and dislike.

Edit:  Jimmy Doolittle stated that he was certain that John Birch would not have approved of his name being associated with the group.

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3 minutes ago, Fourputt said:

I just did some reading and pretty much what I'm reading is what I always heard.  They opposed the civil right movement and the Civil Rights Act of 1964.  They are beyond paranoid about communism.  They are exactly the sort of extremists that I distrust and dislike.

Do you deny that there is an ongoing elitist trend towards Fabian socialism? Or that the ultimate goal of such is the anathema of individual liberty?

This is not to say that Trump is the answer, I doubt that Trump has any concept of anything other than his own ambition. But, to align him with JBS is just beyond any intelligent consideration. :hmm:

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4 minutes ago, CR McDivot said:

Do you deny that there is an ongoing elitist trend towards Fabian socialism? Or that the ultimate goal of such is the anathema of individual liberty?

This is not to say that Trump is the answer, I doubt that Trump has any concept of anything other than his own ambition. But, to align him with JBS is just beyond any intelligent consideration. :hmm:

When did I ever align Trump with JBS?  That comment was about Barry Goldwater, also known during his 1964 campaign as AuH20.

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4 minutes ago, CR McDivot said:

Do you deny that there is an ongoing elitist trend towards Fabian socialism? Or that the ultimate goal of such is the anathema of individual liberty?

This is not to say that Trump is the answer, I doubt that Trump has any concept of anything other than his own ambition. But, to align him with JBS is just beyond any intelligent consideration. :hmm:

I'd say the underlined parts are laying it on way too thick. It's not an evil conspiracy. 

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5 minutes ago, Fourputt said:

When did I ever align Trump with JBS?  That comment was about Barry Goldwater, also known during his 1964 campaign as AuH20.

I apologize for my poor reading of your comment regarding this.

But, I regard Goldwater as having been a better prospect for the office than those he ran against...

or ANY or the current crop!

YMMV... that's what makes a free republic!

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40 minutes ago, SavvySwede said:

I'd say the underlined parts are laying it on way too thick. It's not an evil conspiracy. 

And I'd say it's either an evil conspiracy or willful ignorance...

Your choice! :whistle:

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