Poor Treatment of Muslim Passengers

[newtogolf]

6 hours ago, Golfingdad said:

You're joking right?  Dude called Dearborn "Dearbornistan."  For crying out loud, you might as well cite Trumps comments as proof, it would have the same credibility.

Trump is (again) flat out lying because he knows people are dumb and will buy into it, or he's an idiot.

I only cited the blog because the Washington Post fact checked Trump's story with it.

[Abu3baid]

1 hour ago, Kenny Lee said:

Personally, I don't have much sympathy for Muslims.

I'm waiting for ANY Muslim to denounce the acts of terror that are being carried out worldwide, almost exclusively by Muslims.

Their silence speaks very loudly.

I denounce terror attacks that are carried out by MUSLIMS..

I am a Muslim.

p.s. I'm not waiting for any sympathy, just to be treated like a human being.

[RussUK]

20 minutes ago, Abu3baid said:

I denounce terror attacks that are carried out by MUSLIMS..

I am a Muslim.

p.s. I'm not waiting for any sympathy, just to be treated like a human being.

And you have a right to treated with resepct as do all people regardless of their religion. If they are law abiding respectful citizens it is only right that we all do the same.

 I dont belive anyone should feel they need to say or prove they denounce the actions of a minority of extremists, for the majority of us sane people its a given that they do, but much respect to you for the above post. You shouldnt have to defend yourself or your religion here. 

[Ernest Jones]

3 hours ago, Kenny Lee said:

Personally, I don't have much sympathy for Muslims.

I'm waiting for ANY Musli to denounce the acts of terror that are being carried out worldwide, almost exclusively by Muslims.

Their silence speaks very loudly.

That is a mind-numbingly ignorant post. Maybe you need to expand your fact gathering forays beyond Fox News and Gunther's Blog.

[jbishop15]

3 hours ago, Kenny Lee said:

Personally, I don't have much sympathy for Muslims.

I'm waiting for ANY Muslim to denounce the acts of terror that are being carried out worldwide, almost exclusively by Muslims.

Their silence speaks very loudly.

lolololololololol

[Phil McGleno]

11 hours ago, Gunther said:

What angers me about this is that these situations, while unpleasant, are insignificant when compared to the pain and suffering perpetrated by Muslim jihadists (not only ISIS).

WTF does that have to do with anything?

The FBI has thousands and thousands of investigations right now looking at white dudes.-Guess you and I should be treated like shit when we try to board a plane too huh?

3 hours ago, Kenny Lee said:

Personally, I don't have much sympathy for Muslims.

I'm waiting for ANY Muslim to denounce the acts of terror that are being carried out worldwide, almost exclusively by Muslims.

Their silence speaks very loudly.

What an ignorant stupid thing to say.-Not surprising given the source.

[billchao]

8 hours ago, Kenny Lee said:

Personally, I don't have much sympathy for Muslims.

I'm waiting for ANY Muslim to denounce the acts of terror that are being carried out worldwide, almost exclusively by Muslims.

Their silence speaks very loudly.

You need to get out more and do some actual research before you make claims.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s-not-even-close.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

Here, I'll help:

http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/

[mdl]

9 hours ago, Kenny Lee said:

Personally, I don't have much sympathy for Muslims.

I'm waiting for ANY Muslim to denounce the acts of terror that are being carried out worldwide, almost exclusively by Muslims.

Their silence speaks very loudly.

One, you obviously don't care to look for what you're asking.  You just need rationalizations for your prejudice.  But, even so, what a ridiculous thing to "require" of a group of people.

Do you constantly take to public spaces to announce that as a man you feel betrayed and disgusted by the rampant misogyny and violence against women in our society?  Can't tell from your avatar if you're white, but if you are, do you constantly broadcast how the oppression and murder of minorities by white people makes you embarrassed to be a white man?  If you're American, do you constantly broadcast on international message boards about how you feel betrayed because your countrymen are constantly killing foreign civilians from the sky, and beg others to not judge all Americans because we're not all like that?

I didn't think so.

[jbishop15]

2 hours ago, mdl said:

One, you obviously don't care to look for what you're asking.  You just need rationalizations for your prejudice.  But, even so, what a ridiculous thing to "require" of a group of people.

Do you constantly take to public spaces to announce that as a man you feel betrayed and disgusted by the rampant misogyny and violence against women in our society?  Can't tell from your avatar if you're white, but if you are, do you constantly broadcast how the oppression and murder of minorities by white people makes you embarrassed to be a white man?  If you're American, do you constantly broadcast on international message boards about how you feel betrayed because your countrymen are constantly killing foreign civilians from the sky, and beg others to not judge all Americans because we're not all like that?

I didn't think so.

I wish I could give you rep points for this. 

[CR McDivot]

12 hours ago, Abu3baid said:

I denounce terror attacks that are carried out by MUSLIMS..

I am a Muslim.

p.s. I'm not waiting for any sympathy, just to be treated like a human being.

I take your first statement here as fact, and applaud you for such.

As for the p.s. -

There are a multitude of Muslim women, and non Muslim workers (in both voluntary and involuntary servitude) who would ask the same from Islam.

Edited November 25, 2015 by CR McDivot

[rkim291968]

13 minutes ago, CR McDivot said:

There are a multitude of Muslim women, and non Muslim workers (in both voluntary and involuntary servitude) who would ask the same from Islam.

True that.   But that's not limited to Muslim.  It's a human disease practiced by all.  

[Abu3baid]

1 hour ago, CR McDivot said:

There are a multitude of Muslim women, and non Muslim workers (in both voluntary and involuntary servitude) who would ask the same from Islam.

 

1 hour ago, rkim291968 said:

True that.   But that's not limited to Muslim.  It's a human disease practiced by all.  

Exactly.  Is there any mot vile kind of servitude than being a sex slave?  

http://www.dreamcenter.org/our-outreaches/human-trafficking/the-facts/

[Abu3baid]

http://news.yahoo.com/woman-reports-dynamite-text-passenger-removed-plane-153827850.html

so, the lady heard them speaking in a language other than English, and she even saw a text that said "dynamite"..

long story short, plane returned, everyone is off boarded, 4 people detained and no dynamite text found and they are released.  No idea if they are Arab or not, they could be Spanish for all I know.. What I do know is that people can just say what ever they want, and basically delay hundreds of people because they hear or see things that are pure fantasy.

[newtogolf]

37 minutes ago, Abu3baid said:

http://news.yahoo.com/woman-reports-dynamite-text-passenger-removed-plane-153827850.html

so, the lady heard them speaking in a language other than English, and she even saw a text that said "dynamite"..

long story short, plane returned, everyone is off boarded, 4 people detained and no dynamite text found and they are released.  No idea if they are Arab or not, they could be Spanish for all I know.. What I do know is that people can just say what ever they want, and basically delay hundreds of people because they hear or see things that are pure fantasy.

Unfortunately, given the cowardly method the terrorists use to attack this is likely to be the norm going forward.  NY is expanding the see something, say something campaign and many politicians and LEO are telling people with concealed carries that if something like Paris happens here, shoot to kill. 

[boogielicious]

17 hours ago, newtogolf said:

Unfortunately, given the cowardly method the terrorists use to attack this is likely to be the norm going forward.  NY is expanding the see something, say something campaign and many politicians and LEO are telling people with concealed carries that if something like Paris happens here, shoot to kill. 

Not just foreign terrorists, but add domestic terrorists to that. All these mass shootings that are happening every week should fall into the same category. They are planned attacks. 

[ghalfaire]

On 11/22/2015, 11:52:09, Abu3baid said:

 

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I understand the heightened sense of fear, but what I don't understand is the inability of people to act like rational adults.  This is exactly what the terrorists want, and we are giving them all they want on a gold plate.. 

I believe it is rational these days to be concerned with whom you are sharing an Airplane ride with.  It is unfortunate that this situation exists but as long as the Terrorists are killing what I perceive as innocent citizens I suspect this added attention will continue and it should.  

I would add that the situation might be mitigated some if any Muslim religious leaders or rulers of Muslim dominated countries would publicly speak out against the slaughter of innocents by Islamic radicals.  But as long as leaders of some countries are publicly stating "Death to Israel" and "Death to America" and while other leaders in the area remains silent, I think caution is rational.  

For the record here I mean no disrespect to any one or to their religion and I believe most Muslims are not going to harm anyone.  But as we have learned a few times now in our modern history, it doesn't take very large numbers to do a lot of harm. 

[phillyk]

1 hour ago, ghalfaire said:

I believe it is rational these days to be concerned with whom you are sharing an Airplane ride with.  It is unfortunate that this situation exists but as long as domestic and foreign Terrorists are killing what I perceive as innocent citizens (people) I suspect this added attention will continue and it should.  

I would add that the situation might be mitigated some if any... religious leaders ... would publicly speak out against the slaughter of innocents... 

There I fixed it for you. Notice that there is no mention of a specific religion or race, and now any person of any country could say the above and be true.

[Golfingdad]

21 hours ago, newtogolf said:

Unfortunately, given the cowardly method the terrorists use to attack this is likely to be the norm going forward.  NY is expanding the see something, say something campaign and many politicians and LEO are telling people with concealed carries that if something like Paris happens here, shoot to kill. 

That doesn't make it any less unacceptable though.   And there is no need to qualify the type of attack, because by exclusion it infers that those who don't bother you (the previously mentioned non terrorists, now including the dude in Colorado) are somehow less cowardly.

And Colorado man further highlights how freaking absurd this entire conversation has become.  We're still talking about those "scary" Muslims but once again they have not hurt us.  A white dude of unknown religion has added to the toll.

People like the woman in the op are freaking cowardly bigots - plain and simple.