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Replace mid irons with Hybrids

I'm returning to golf after a few years of layoff.  I decided early on to rely on hybrid clubs to replace all irons apart from 8-LW.  So far it's been fine but I have a nagging feeling that it's taking the hacker's option not to mention a slightly bruised ego when people see my bag which looks like a travelling puppet show.  Any thoughts out there?  PS be polite!


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I really do not think anybody cares. If the hybrids translate into lower scores, your ego should rightfully remain intact.

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Even players on the PGA Tour have hybrids in their bag. The ladies on the LPGA Tour have hybrids in their bag. If you are playing better and enjoying the game more with hybrids keep doing what is best for your game. Most players today have hybrids in the bag so why shouldn't you have some. Most mid irons today are really long irons of yesterday so keep those hybrids and don't worry about what any one says about them.


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Golf began, so far as we know, with wooden clubs.  The proliferation of irons roughly coincides with the introduction of the gutta percha ball in the 1840's.  Full, numbered, sets of irons were not common until steel shafts replaced hickory.  I think it likely we are in the midst of another such shift.  The 1 iron, 2 iron, and 3 iron have all but disappeared; the spoon and baffy are enjoying a resurgence.

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It depends on what works for you. In hybrids, 2H is too severe for me, and 3H and 4H work well. 5H just seems to launch too high.

In my SLDR irons, the 4i launches well in part because of the Thru Slot polymer sole insert. It launches much like a hybrid, although it doesn't look like one.

When I caddied in the Decatur-Forsyth Classic last month (LPGA/Symetra Tour), many of the women carried a single fairway wood and a 3H and 4H, with a 5i as lowest numbered iron. Some also carried a 5H.

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When you're filling in the hybrids, be aware whether you are getting classic or iron-replacement hybrids.

  • Classic hybrids fall between fairway woods and numbered irons in shaft length.
  • IR hybrids match up pretty closely in loft and shaft length with the numbered irons they are designed to replace.

Also, if the 3H seems a little iffy, consider going with a 5W or a 7W instead.

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What do you care what other people think!? Grow a set, man! I don't carry an iron numbered lower than 6 anymore!

Remember, even stupid people play golf. These are the folks with 2 irons still in their bags! Especially if they're over 40!

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I used to love my long irons but now my 6 is the longest I carry. My handicap is lower now, too. Hit what works for you.

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The longest iron I have is a 6 as well. I love my 4 & 5 hybrids and get better distance, accuracy and score much better with them.  


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1 hour ago, Buckeyebowman said:

What do you care what other people think!? Grow a set, man! I don't carry an iron numbered lower than 6 anymore!

Remember, even stupid people play golf. These are the folks with 2 irons still in their bags! Especially if they're over 40!

I really do not agree that carrying a one or two iron relates to I.Q.  They have their uses and some are quite proficient with them. That being said, I still carry 4I thru Gap, but have a redundant hybrid.

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23 minutes ago, Hacker James said:

I really do not agree that carrying a one or two iron relates to I.Q.  They have their uses and some are quite proficient with them. That being said, I still carry 4I thru Gap, but have a redundant hybrid.

Have some dignity for the game. Learn to hit clubs, don't just rely on technology to make the game more enjoyable. This isn't an easy game. There were no short cuts 50 years ago. 


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7 hours ago, ChillyDip69 said:

Have some dignity for the game. Learn to hit clubs, don't just rely on technology to make the game more enjoyable. This isn't an easy game. There were no short cuts 50 years ago. 

That may work for you but following your thinking, most people didn't have toilet paper 100 years ago either.    Most people didn't have a cell phone 35 years ago.  These items, like a hybrid, make life easier.   If hybrids help his game it's not wrong to use them. 

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10 hours ago, ChillyDip69 said:

Have some dignity for the game. Learn to hit clubs, don't just rely on technology to make the game more enjoyable. This isn't an easy game. There were no short cuts 50 years ago. 

The sand wedge was a "short cut".

You're ignorant to the history of the game if you don't think that players have always mucked with clubs and balls to help themselves. Heck, the original balls were smooth, and dimples were invented after players learned that some nicks and cuts would help their ball fly farther.

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10 hours ago, ChillyDip69 said:

Have some dignity for the game. Learn to hit clubs, don't just rely on technology to make the game more enjoyable. This isn't an easy game. There were no short cuts 50 years ago. 

They didn't have steel shafts (for consistency) 50 years ago?  That wasn't a technology-based shortcut compared to the originals?

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I've got 15°, 21° & 25° hybrids in my bag ... just not sure why the OP would want a hybrid for the 6 & 7 irons ... I won't question it as there's always reasons for people to justify using what they use.  I like the "puppet show" headcovers visual reference though :beer:.  Although some would likewise question my 15° hybrid (Adams Super S with the oversize head) vs. a 3 wood (I love the  3 wood, but it becomes a liability more than an asset as I only hit if off the deck once or twice a round - never hit it enough to get really good with it ... the shorter shaft of the 15° hybrid is so much more consistent for me off the deck than a 3 wood) 

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On ‎03‎/‎07‎/‎2017 at 4:44 AM, ChillyDip69 said:

Have some dignity for the game. Learn to hit clubs, don't just rely on technology to make the game more enjoyable. This isn't an easy game. There were no short cuts 50 years ago. 

I'm impressed with your dedication but why make Golf a form of penance?

3 hours ago, inthehole said:

I've got 15°, 21° & 25° hybrids in my bag ... just not sure why the OP would want a hybrid for the 6 & 7 irons ... I won't question it as there's always reasons for people to justify using what they use.  I like the "puppet show" headcovers visual reference though :beer:.  Although some would likewise question my 15° hybrid (Adams Super S with the oversize head) vs. a 3 wood (I love the  3 wood, but it becomes a liability more than an asset as I only hit if off the deck once or twice a round - never hit it enough to get really good with it ... the shorter shaft of the 15° hybrid is so much more consistent for me off the deck than a 3 wood) 

Really its a question of my skill level.  I can hit a 6 or 7 iron but hybrids reduce the punishment on bad shots and give me a lot more consistency out of the rough.  They are a  lot more stable and sweep through rough where I'd have a much higher risk of the club face closing down hitting a terrible with a normal iron.

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On 7/2/2017 at 9:51 PM, Buckeyebowman said:

What do you care what other people think!? Grow a set, man! I don't carry an iron numbered lower than 6 anymore!

Remember, even stupid people play golf. These are the folks with 2 irons still in their bags! Especially if they're over 40!

Longest iron I carry is a 7-iron. Just shot 35-38-73 today at my course. Play what your comfortable with and have more fun.

-Jerry

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29 minutes ago, jsgolfer said:

Longest iron I carry is a 7-iron. Just shot 35-38-73 today at my course. Play what your comfortable with and have more fun.

I should probably consider a 5H and 6H but keep the irons and swap out once in a while. I only have 3H and 4H at present with only one fairway wood. Interestingly enough, the 3H is an off brand with steel shaft, but I like the looks of it and performance is adequate enough for me. Oddly enough, I also use my 4 iron which is a little redundant but there are shots that it seems to work better than the hybrid.

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7 hours ago, inthehole said:

I've got 15°, 21° & 25° hybrids in my bag ... just not sure why the OP would want a hybrid for the 6 & 7 irons ... I won't question it as there's always reasons for people to justify using what they use.  

I use the hybrids, as I just hit them better. I'm more consistent with the hybrids than even a 6-iron. Can I hit a six iron or higher absolutely but my misses are never as bad with the hybrids. And you can really hit a hybrid well out of heavy rough it just glides through it. So to me, I don't know why more players won't use more hybrids.

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