2017 PGA Championship at Quail Hollow Discussion Thread

[iacas]

 

[ChrisP]

Congrats to Louis Oosthuizen on completing the Grand Slam....the runner-up Grand Slam, that is. Finished 2nd place now in all four majors in his career.

[Piz]

3 minutes ago, ChrisP said:

Congrats to Louis Oosthuizen on completing the Grand Slam....the runner-up Grand Slam, that is. Finished 2nd place now in all four majors in his career.

AKA...The Penultimate Quadrilateral.

[CharlesGolf]

The green complexes and routing of the newly designed holes do not fit. No.1 is the worst hole in the history of major championships. No. 2  dogleg left fairway falls to the right at the turn and does not fit anyone's eye. No. 4 green sucks. No 5 green contours are a joke. No. 8 was better. With an elongated green. No. 8 green as is sucks. No. 16 is a page out of modern golf and unlike any hole on the course. No. 18 requires every player to be defensive instead of aggressive. Quail is an overrated piece. The club's President, Johnny Harris, acts like he owns the place and he does not. He acts like the place is Augusta and nothing could be farther from the truth. Good grief! Disappointing venue.

[David in FL]

23 minutes ago, CharlesGolf said:

The green complexes and routing of the newly designed holes do not fit. No.1 is the worst hole in the history of major championships. No. 2  dogleg left fairway falls to the right at the turn and does not fit anyone's eye. No. 4 green sucks. No 5 green contours are a joke. No. 8 was better. With an elongated green. No. 8 green as is sucks. No. 16 is a page out of modern golf and unlike any hole on the course. No. 18 requires every player to be defensive instead of aggressive. Quail is an overrated piece. The club's President, Johnny Harris, acts like he owns the place and he does not. He acts like the place is Augusta and nothing could be farther from the truth. Good grief! Disappointing venue.

And yet, it was a great, entertaining championship.

I wonder how that happened on a goat track like that?!

[iacas]

1 hour ago, David in FL said:

And yet, it was a great, entertaining championship.

I wonder how that happened on a goat track like that?!

I think the post from @CharlesGolf has merit. The greens were often incongruous. They often didn't seem to reward good shots. I didn't watch enough to say, but the little I saw lines up with Charles's post a bit.

[nevets88]

14-1-0, think 0 is Fowler. Keep plugging away, Rickie.

[Piz]

Fowler and Poulter are the same...one just lives farther from town.

[iacas]

8 minutes ago, Piz said:

Fowler and Poulter are the same...one just lives farther from town.

Oy, no.

[Piz]

2 minutes ago, iacas said:

Oy, no.

Frum tha Wes cuntry air ya?

[Aguirre]

On 8/11/2017 at 8:10 AM, iacas said:

I don't think it's the grass. All very subtly almost flat greens are hard to read.

At higher stimps that is.

Yes. As I've told people who haven't played Oakmont who have asked how tough the greens are to read: "They aren't hard to read at all. They're difficult to putt."

EDIT--I just quoted myself.

 

Also, leave it to assclown robot Darren Rovell to make a story out of TV ratings. I will never understand the sports media's obsession with TV ratings.* Nobody who is an actual fan of any of these sports care one way or another. It's not as if golf is going extinct. I mean, I first heard about how baseball's fan base is old 30 years ago. And they're still talking about it. The second richest sports league on the entire planet.

 

*Outside of it affecting their own salaries.

Edited August 15, 2017 by Aguirre

[Shindig]

10 hours ago, nevets88 said:

14-1-0, think 0 is Fowler. Keep plugging away, Rickie.

Oh, number of majors won for each.  I thought Rickie was making an odd comment about Tiger's record with the 54 hole lead at a major and I thought... yikes.  Glad he wasn't saying that.

[DeadMan]

12 hours ago, iacas said:

I think the post from @CharlesGolf has merit. The greens were often incongruous. They often didn't seem to reward good shots. I didn't watch enough to say, but the little I saw lines up with Charles's post a bit.

Along those lines, I saw this from the Fried Egg about the design of 18 and what could be improved to make it more interesting strategically: http://www.friedegg.co/golf-courses/improving-quail-hollow

I didn't watch a ton of the tournament, but it seemed like a course that was more of a US Open-style course. You had one option on every shot and were penalized if you didn't execute that one option. This is why I prefer playing and watching links-style golf, which generally presents you with multiple options on every shot.

Of course, it still produced an exciting final day. But Augusta does that do, and it's not because the course is super difficult and you have to execute one shot only.

[Wally Fairway]

So Brooks Koepka is the major championship low scorer of the year. Only 13 players made the cut in all 4 events and Koepka was a cumulative -21 (16 at Erin Hills), Matsuyama and Kuchar tied for 2nd at -20; others are Rickie -16, Spieth -10, Casey -9, Hoffman -3, Leishman +3, Stricker +3, Holmes +10, Henley +12, Kisner +16 and Lee Westwood at +20

Source; Golf Digest article

[dennyjones]

9 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

So Brooks Koepka is the major championship low scorer of the year. Only 13 players made the cut in all 4 events and Koepka was a cumulative -21 (16 at Erin Hills), Matsuyama and Kuchar tied for 2nd at -20; others are Rickie -16, Spieth -10, Casey -9, Hoffman -3, Leishman +3, Stricker +3, Holmes +10, Henley +12, Kisner +16 and Lee Westwood at +20

Source; Golf Digest article

That sounds like a full challenge for next year.   Guess the low scorer for the majors combined.

Edited August 17, 2017 by dennyjones

[Shindig]

4 hours ago, dennyjones said:

That sounds like a full challenge for next year.   Guess the low scorer for the majors combined.

Remind us at the end of March and we'll put a pool together.